CLCA Board Meeting Minutes – June 29, 2013

CLCA BOARD MEETING
CLEAR LAKE ADINISTRATION BOARD MEETING
JUNE 29th, 2013
Present: Brian McVicar, Trevor Winters, Scott Jordan, Gloria Belliveau, Joyce Harland, Joann Lombaert, Nelda Didychuk, Joan James, John George, Brad Colett and Keith Vinthers.

Absent with cause: Kevin Alguire and Paul Barnabe.

The meeting was called to order at 9:10 a.m.
Parks Canada: Dwight McMillan
Jamboree Hall Rentals: The Park has requested that our Board assume full control of rental of the newly renovated Jamboree Hall. The Jamboree Hall will be operated by the CLCA, but the Park Information Desk needs the name of our contact person. Dwight suggested that we ask for a refundable damage deposit and also ask for a donation for the use of the Hall. Dwight sees the biggest issue being the noise and parking affecting the closest neighbours. Dwight suggested we try to limit the use of the Hall to CLCA members and their families. He also suggested that we need to develop a set of Guidelines.

Shower Keys: Due to a change in ownership of the locksmith shop in Brandon, the Park has arranged for your Board to keep a supply of shower building replacement keys, which can be purchased from Joyce Harland, phone no. 204 250 7965.

Priivacy Act: Because the Park received a complaint about the names, etc., of new cabin owners being given to the CLCA, the Park can no longer give us the names of new cabin owners.

Leases: Dwight reported that leases for 300 cabin owners are totally finished, while they have not had any contact with 18 cabin owners and the rest are still in the process of being completed. Dwight has contacted the 18 owners who have not paid, including phone calls and registered mail. The Park will be pursuing the next step this week.

Lot Leases: Dwight reported that there are 46 surveyed vacant lots in our area, 30 of which are suitable for development. Of these 30, 5 were listed for lease this year with a reserved bid of $75,000.00. One of these was leased for $75,100.00, which set the price for the lowest bid for this year. The other 4 lots are still for lease. In the cottage area, there are 250 cottage lots which have been surveyed, however, none of these have been listed this year. Regarding commercial lots, the Neilly Garage site will be cleaned up this fall. There is minimal contamination. Following this, the lot will be appraised and put up for bids. In the future, there will be 9 more commercial lots available.

Doctor’s Residence: There is 1 more year on the lease for the Doctor’s residence. This issue is now under consideration.

Manitoba Hydro: There is a new step in the process of getting new or remodel cabin approvals. Before submitting your application to the Park, you must now get a Hydro Point Check done. They are now 8 weeks behind in doing these checks. You need two applications, a service point check and a pole to cabin check. Hydro need to know if you are planning to install an On Demand Water Heater. You must be up front with Hydro as this affects the service to the whole area as well as the number of poles required. On Demand Water Heaters draw more power than the rest of the household. They could cause a safety/fire hazard if their existence is not known by Manitoba Hydro. They should always be inspected by Manitoba Hydro before being used. Once the cabin owner has a service point confirmed by Manitoba Hydro, Dwight will issue a building permit. When asked about underground wiring, Hydro said no as the Park will not pay for it.

Drain: The drain between 3rd and 4th N back lane has been tapped off due to leakage. It will be repaired this week.

Sheds: Sheds must be placed 2 feet from the back of the cabins. They can be on the back of the cabin if you have a firewall.

Compliance: If you have a question or complaint about your own lot, you may discuss this with the Park, however, they will not discuss questions or complaints about your neighbours. You must then work out your own solutions.

Decks: All decks must be non-combustible. Decks can be framed with wood if the wood is covered and not visible.

Parking: Michael Rac wishes to speak to as many owners as possible as this issue, as well as others, will be included in his report at the end of the summer.
Michael Rac: Michael will be talking and meeting with cabin owners all summer. He is working on a comprehensive design review for our area. He has been working on a parking assessment and there may possibly be some back lanes moved.

Sewer and Water: Tenders were sent out June 21st with a close date of July 15th. Response has been overwhelming. Project start date is September 2nd and end date is November 29th, 2013. Dwight suggests cabin owners may want to consider closing up early this year, as heavy construction material will be moved in and construction started immediately following the long week-end. Next spring, everything will be flat (although muddy), but we will have to live with it as the ground has to settle. The connecting box will be on the property line with 2 valve shutoffs. The sewer will be beside the box. One trench will serve 2 cabins. Hard surfacing of the roads will be done next fall.

Water Taps: All outdoor water taps will be fitted with freeze off valves, which will allow the washrooms, shower building, etc. to remain turned on longer.

Moved by Brad Collett and seconded by John George that the Minutes of the May 11th, 2013 Board Meeting be approved. Carried.

Business Arising Out of Minutes: Nelda Didychuk has drafted the welcome letter to all new cabin owners and circulated it to the Board members for approval. It was suggested that the Park be asked to include it in their information package to new owners, as well as Joyce Harland including it in her “Welcome Wagon” project, and placing it on the website. Nelda to finalize the letter.

Website: General discussion occurred regarding our website.
Website Links: We received a request from the Erickson Credit Union to have permission to have a link with our website. The question arose regarding showing favouritism and should we approach both Westoba and Vanguard Credit Unions who have also shown an interest in our area. Moved by John George that we allow approval in principle for commercial businesses to have a link to our website for a nominal fee. Seconded by Keith Vinters. Carried. Members of the committee will be Joyce Harland, Trevor Winters and Scott Jordan.

General Meeting Registration: After some discussion, it was decided to have the registration done alphabetically.

Leaf Blower Complaint: Following discussion, it was decided to refer this type of complaint to the noise restrictions in the Building Guidelines.

Clear Lake Cabin Association Treasurer’s Report as of June 18th, 2013:Revenue: As of May 1st, 2013 $5,986.95
Income from Membership Deposits 760.00
Total Revenue to June 18th, 2013 $6,746.95
Expenses:
Envelopes, stamps, printing for Newsletter $394.73
Website Hosting (May 23/13 to May 23/14) 58.80
Website Domain renewal to June 24/14 8.03
Print cartridge 28.30
Travel to Portage for Board Meeting May 11/13 713.70
Lunch for Board Meeting May11/13 243.80
Total Expenses to June 18. 2013 $1,447.36
Total Assets to June 18, 2013 $5,299.59
Westoba Bank Balance as of June 18, 2013 $5,286.59
Add Westoba Share 5.00
Add Westoba Equity 8.00
Bank Reconciliation $5,299.59
455 (87%) Paid up members to date
Respectfully submitted by Joyce Harland, Treasurer, CLCA

Board Elections: Board Members whose terms expire the summer are Nelda Didychuk, Joann Lombaert and Kevin Alguire.

Jamboree Hall: Bookings for the use of the Jamboree Hall will now be made by Joyce Harland. The main issues of responsibility regarding operation of the Jamboree Hall are noise, parking and clean-up. Member of the Jamboree Hall Committee to develop guidelines, set rental fees and a refundable deposit fee are Joyce Harland, Joann Lombaert and Gloria Belliveau.
Moved to adjourn the meeting made by Keith Vinthers at 12:10 p.m.

These minutes are being posted for your information only and will still need to be approved at the next CLCA Board Meeting which will be held on August 31, 2013

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OUTSIDE ELECTRICAL WATER HEATERS

VERY IMPORTANT SAFETY ALERT and WARNING.

It has come to The Board’s attention that The Park has had to investigate and intercede with illegal and very
unsafe electrical installations of ON DEMAND ELECTRICAL WATER HEATERS.

One or more cabin owners are getting unqualified people to install 2
x40 amp breakers in 70 or higher amp service. Luckily the Park found
out and intervened in what would have surely been a serious Fire and
Safety threat for the occupants and our area.

According to experts any electrical on demand service over 7 kw( those for small sink only units) requires 2 or 3 electrical feeds. Our cabin area is only serviced to accept single feed service. Since cabins require the much bigger 45 kv on demand electrical water heaters they are not approved for our cabin area.

Cabin owners should only consider gas operates On Demand Water Heaters.

Manitoba Hydro will allow hot water tanks to be housed in a structure attached to a cabin as follows:

Structure attached to cabin must have a shingled roof and be constructed (in the case of new cabins) of the same material as cabin. Basically, the structure needs to be weather proof.

Structure must have a door large enough to remove hot water tank

Hot water tanks cannot be placed directly on the ground

They must be wired in accordance to Manitoba Electrical Code

Location will also need to be approved by Parks Canada

ELECTRICAL REQUIREMENTS FOR OUTSIDE BATHROOMS:
No electrical panels will be allowed in outside bathrooms. You will need to run a circuit from the main panel in cabin.

Below is the contact information for Wilf Steinhilber, Electrical Inspector for Manitoba Hydro:

Wilf Steinhilber
Electrical Inspector
Manitoba Hydro
1-204-867-7708
wsteinhilber@hydro.mb.ca

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CLCA Board Meeting – May 11, 2013

CLEAR LAKE CABIN ASSOCIATION BOARD MEETING
PORTAGE LA PRAIRIE, MANITOBA
MAY 11th, 2013

Present: Brian McVicar, Trevor Winters, Scott Jordan, Gloria Belliveau, Joyce Harland, Brad Collett, Nelda Didychuk, John George, Joan James, JoAnn Lombaert, Keith Vinthers and Kevin Alguire by Skype.

Absent with cause: Paul Barnabe.

The President called the meeting to order at 9:35 a.m.

FOLLOW UP FROM PREVIOUS MEETING;
Keith Vinthers reported that he had met with Manitoba Hydro and was told that On Demand Water Heaters would be approved as long as they met up-to-date Canadian electrical codes, however as yet, none had met these codes.
He reported that he was told that as it will need more than one (likely 2) heaters it will become quite expensive. It could also become costly as Manitoba Hydro reported that the present infrastructure would not be sufficient, and we would need more poles on the back lanes. Underground wiring is not possible unless we are willing to pay for this service.
It was suggested that it would be wise to have Manitoba Hydro inspect your site prior to building to avoid issues, for example, lines affecting other cabin owners. The issue of the spider web lines from the poles was discussed.
The question was asked if we would be allowed to add a shed type addition on the back of the cabin to house the hot water tank as some cabins just do not have room for the tank. Keith Vinters will follow this up with Dwight.
NEWSLETTER
The newsletter has been sent to all paid up members who have registered their email addresses with us. Newsletters were mailed to all paid up members without email addresses.

WATER AND SEWER
Brad Colett reported that he had seen the water and sewer infrastructure plans and feels that it is a well done plan. The Board would like information on the life expectancy of the washrooms and the repayment of the sewer and water debt. Tabled to the Park conversation.

PARK REPRESENTATIVES
Brian welcomed Dale Wallis, Dwight McMillan and Michael Roc
Dale introduced Michael as a Sr. Urban Planning student who will be with us for the summer. He will have office hours in the building at the corner of 1st and Centre Street, commonly known as the “Cleaners Cabin”. Michael encourages all cabin owners to talk with him, as he wants as many ideas as he can accumulate to help him compile information for the ”comprehensive review”.
Dale gave us information on the new lots that are being opened, where they are located and concerns re their impacts, etc. He showed board Members a map of the empty lots, and gave each member a small map of the 5 lots up for auction this year. The deadline for bids for the 5 cabin lots this year is May 31st, and the minimum bid is $75,000. Over the next few years the following lots will be released: 15 cottage lots, 9 commercial lots and 30 cabin lots.
There is a new Master Fee Plan. It is now tied to the Consumer Price Index, and is expected to be reviewed every 2 years.
The Jamboree Hall is under renovation, and the park hopes to have it ready for July.
When asked, Dale confirmed that the Shower Building will remain until it literally falls down.
All lots are at least 100 square feet. If you are by a vacant lot, you still have to follow the Building Guidelines.
When asked about the location of the water hookups to cabins, Dale replied that the Site Manager and the Contractor will make that decision on the scene due to local conditions such as poles and trees, etc.
The Park is pushing to get the R. M. of Park hooked up to our sewer and water system as when the R. M. uses more, everyone’s costs will go down.
Garbage costs will be cost recovery by next year. This year will be approximately $290.00, and next year approximately $500.00.
Two commercial Properties, Clear Lake Lodge and Mooswa, are going year round.
The President thanked the Park for their work in having Parks Canada front the sewer and water project. It is planned to have the pay back invoices issued July 1st, 2014. Interest will be added for late payments. There will be no installment plans. The $5000 could cover the cost of repairing the roads (chip seal or asphalt).
Dale reported that they are hoping the Wishing Well Road will be completed this fall.
Keith reported that he had spoken with Manitoba Hydro about On Demand Water Heaters and was told that they would be allowed if they meet the Canadian Electrical Code, however so far none have been found. 100 gallon propane tanks will be allowed, but they must be approved and at the rear of the building and not the side setbacks. Hot water tanks can be in a shed attachment at the back of the cabin, but must meet the electrical code. External wall mounted On Demand Hot Water propane tanks are O.K., but are expensive. Keith will continue to explore these issues
The CLCA budget review indicated that less money was spent on the lake walk, and more on tree removal.
John George recommended a box liner material which could be used on the inside of the garbage containers.
John reported that the lake committee may, down the road, recommend limiting the number of boats allowed on the lake due to overuse, but John does not feel there is a need for limits.
There has been discussion of a crosswalk on the Highway near the entrance to the Elkhorn.
The entrance to the Golf Course is being discussed. The Club House and Restaurant are open.
After discussion regarding the viability of supporting the doctor, Joan James will study this issue and report back to the board.
The Development Review Board has been disbanded.
Dwight reported that there were no issues with the gates remaining open during the winter.
Joyce asked about the recycling program and Dale will be reviewing this.
John George asked that Michael review the location of garbage bins, try to find 2 parking spaces per cabin, and to review the roads.
A motion was made by Trevor Winters and seconded by Keith Vinters that mileage be set at $0.45 cents per km, to be reviewed annually.
Dwight was asked to clarify if an Engineer’s Stamp is appropriate for the cabin drawings.
Joan reported that the cost of the outdoor washroom buildings has gone up.

Clear Lake Cabin Association Treasurer’s Report as of May 1, 2013
Revenue: As of September 21, 2012 $9,326.83
Expenses:
Mileage to Portage Sept.22/12 Board Meeting $ 578.30
Canad Inn, room and lunch, Sept.22/12 344.08
True Draw Drafting – Cabin Plans 1,417.50
WTA fees 1,000.00

Total Expenses to May 1, 2013 $3,339.88
Total Assets to May 1, 2013 $5,986.95
Westona Bank Balance as of March 31, 2013 $5,973.95
Add Westona Share 5.00
Add Westona Equity 8,00
Bank Reconciliation $5,986.95
417 (79%) paid up members to date
Respectfully submitted by Joyce Harland, Treasurer, CLCA
Joyce said that she would like to send a notice to all cabin owners that have not paid their fees, but that due to privacy reasons, the Park can no longer give us this information. Moved by Keith Vinthers and seconded by Trevor Winters that Nelda Didychuk draft a letter to all new cabin owners to be given to all owners by the Park.
Cheque signers will be Vice President Scott Jordan, Treasurer Joyce Harland and Board Member John George.
The unauthorized survey that was placed on our website has been removed.
Trevor volunteered to print voting cards for the General Meeting.
The General Meeting will be held June 30th, 2013.
Next Board Meeting will be at 9:30 a.m. in the Park Board Room on June 29th, 2013.
Meeting adjourned at 3:20 p.m.

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NOISE ISSUES

We have received a concern regarding the use of Leaf Blowers in the Park. I would like to remind everyone to please be mindful of noise caused when doing construction, renovations and cleanup and to adhere to the time frames during the summer months. Because of our close proximity to our neighbours it is very important that we all try to reduce noise annoyance of others as much as is reasonably possible.

Our quiet time is 11:00 p.m. in the campground. If you encounter a problem which cannot be resolved you can phone Paladin Securities at 204-724-8542 for assistance. If this does not resolve the issue there is an Emergency Contact List posted on all the washrooms as well as on the website. Just go to Cabin Information and click on Emergency Contacts and you are instructed to call the RCMP for public peace disturbances.

CONSTRUCTION WORK TIMES BEGINNING JULY 1ST AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 1ST IS 7 DAYS A WEEK BETWEEN 10:00 A.M. AND 6:00 P.M. THE REST OF THE YEAR THERE ARE NO RESTRICTIONS.

Thank you for your consideration.

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NEWSLETTER MAY 2013

CLCA Spring 2013 Newsletter May 1 st, 2013

With over two feet of snow left in the Park and temperatures hovering around freezing and more snow forecasted for this week, one will have to consult the calendar to see if it’s really spring time! Mother Nature is being a bad girl again this year.

Possible Services Delays

According to an update from the Park, start up of water and washrooms service in our Cabin area will later this year due to the very late spring. They are hoping that water and washrooms will be open sometime around May 11th with fingers crossed for the May long weekend. They hope that with the new water and sewer project, changes will be made to isolate 3rd Street from the rest of the system so they can have the shower building and a few washrooms open early and stay open later.
Although services to our Cabin area will be delayed we can only hope that flooding will not be too serious for southern Saskatchewan and Manitoba again this spring. The very cool spring delay will surely make for a very quick melt and that does not bode well for our flat prairie landscape however it was comforting to see that at least the Red River level was starting to fall in the USA already.

Change

As we all know, our cabin area had remained relatively unchanged over the past number of decades. As such, it was inevitable that change would occur sometime, and it did. Great efforts were made by the Board and the Park to correct misinformation and provide cabin owners with factual information yet it was understandable that there was organized resistance to change. We are encouraged however to hear that the vast majority of cabin owners are now moving on with the changes to Leases and with the introduction of Water and Sewer. The Park advised that they have spoken to 491 or more cabin owners as of April 14, 2013 and the response was overwhelmingly positive to the changes.

Water & Sewer Update

Hindsight is 20/20 and there is not doubt that had the decision been made years earlier, the cost to cabin owners today would be substantially less. Had we followed Waskisiw’s lead, there was a good likelihood that the Park may have picked up the water and sewer costs however, that was then and now is now. We cannot change history.
Today the Park is clearly working under new financial austerity measures and constraints. Although the Park was not successful in securing funding for us to install water and sewer in our Cabin area, the Park did do what it could to mitigate the costs of the project as much as possible.
I would like to take this opportunity to publicly thank and recognize the Park, especially Mr. Dale Wallis, Mr. Dwight McMillan and our new RMNP Superintendent, Mr. Robert Sheldon for their hard work, understanding and support and for finding a way to “front” the costs of the new Water and Sewer Installations on behalf of CLCA. The Park further agreed to help reduce installation/construction costs by using their in-house specialists to update project design details and tender documents. The Park also agreed to act as the General Contractor for the project thus saving CLCA members approximately 20 plus % of cost on the project. This is an estimated savings of about $500,000 in overall costs. As promised, the Park reviewed the W & S design plans with CLCA representatives before the plans went out to tender. The Park will keep CLCA apprised of the tender replies and review same with us once replies are received.
The Park recommended that the specific water and sewer locations to cabins be left to later in order to keep costs of project in line. As noted by the Park, their needs to be some flexibility to allow for contractor variance on locations due to existing services and trees. For example, if we say the line will be on one side of the cabin and it goes in on the other we will simply create unnecessary headaches and costs for the project and owners..
After the contract is awarded the Park will work with the successful bidder to develop technical package on the building connections to the system including what side of the cabin the lines will run. This package will be posted to our CLCA website in time for cabin owners to make arrangements for system connection in 2014.
To our knowledge the project timeline and budget is still on track with construction expected to begin in late fall/winter with completion in the spring of 2014.
It should also be noted that the plan includes the refinishing of affected streets after the project is completed however due to settling of the disturbed ground, the repairs to streets would likely not occur until the following year.
As many of you have just recently found out, thanks to the upfront funding support by the Park this saved us from having to secure private funding. This resulted in delaying the $5000.00 per cabin repayment costs to next year. More information on debt repayment will be provided on this once more details are known.
Good news for all and once again, sincere thanks to the Park for their outstanding support on this project.

Summer Urban Planner Student- Cabin Area

The Park has arranged for a Summer Student, Michael Rae, who is in his senior year of Urban Studies, to assist with providing information on the water and sewer project and other issues relevant to our Cabin area. This person will likely be residing in what was known as the Worker’s Maintenance Cabin. Michael will be available to meet with all cabin owners at the ‘Cleaners Cabin’ # 3 – 1 St South, Wednesday – Sunday between the hours of 10:00am – Noon and 2:00 pm to 6:00pm beginning June to the end of August. This summer Michael will be collecting information and comments from Cabin Owners on the lease and water and sewer conversion projects. In addition he will be providing information on the projects and developing recommendations for topics of consideration for the Comprehensive Review including vehicle and boat parking, wood and garbage locations, traffic patterns, green space, etc. Next summer Michael will return to present the proposals developed from these conversations and his onsite evaluation of the cabin area. This project will help the cabin owners and the Park develop concepts for future options in the area so we encourage you to take the time to meet with Michael at your convenience and provide your input into this study.

Winter Construction Activity

Given the interest in building over the winter, the Cabin area gates remained open to allow access for increased construction. The Park has reported that over the winter of 2012-13 there were 6 new cabins built, 4 cabin relocations and 4 cabins additions constructed. Allowing this to occur should greatly reduce the amount of summer construction and associated noise thus making the cabin area more enjoyable over the summer.

Cabin Drawings and 6 x 8 Washroom Shed

The Board authorized the provision of Cabin Drawings initiative as a way to help reduce costs for those thinking of building new cabins. These plans were posted to the CLCA website last fall. Please note the various cabin sizes.
The approximate cost to obtain a detailed set of construction plans from the plan supplier is $300.00. It would also cost about $350.00 for an engineering stamp. If one were to use an architect to design a cabin plan with details, the cost would be about 10% of the cabin cost. For many this could amount to $10,000 or more.
Contact information for detailed plans suitable for presentation to the Park is;
Bruce Wohlgemuth
Trudraw Drafting
Box 81 Riding Mountain, Mb.
Phone 204 967 2465 Fax 204 967 2466
Interested people can check this information on the CLCA website and or contact the cabin plan supplier directly for more information.

Cabin Washroom Shed

This information was circulated at last fall’s AGM. The Park has already approved the use of bathroom sheds. Anyone with a cabin 24’ or less can have a bathroom shed moved in or built to approved building code specifications. The 6 x 8 shed includes a bathroom complete with shower, sink, toilet, in wall heater, one window, fully insulated and can be placed behind your cabin for approximately $5000.00. The contact person is;
George Wollman
Twilite Hi Pro Mfg Ltd.
Phone. 204 476 3126 or 877 476 7557
Please check out the CLCA website for more details and contact information.

Building Guidelines Changes

This newsletter does not purport to be the authority on building guidelines and as such, cabin owners are encouraged to contact the Park for same, however to our knowledge, there are two significant changes.
– Allows one to build to 20 feet high (a change from 16.5 feet) and,
– A full second floor if one stayed with the basic 16 x 24 size. The square footage of both floors still cannot exceed 768 square feet ( both floors combined).

Leases

The Park has already sent out information on this item to all Cabin owners.

Release of New Lots.

According to the Park, the land survey for the cabin area identified 571 lots within the campground boundary. Of this total 555 lots are useable building sites or 30 lots in addition to those already leased and occupied. The Park have released 5 lots under a Request for Bids process this spring with a minimum reserve bid of $75,000 per lot. The other 25 available lots may be released in 5 – 10 lot processes over the next few years. The Park will be including all 555 lots in the calculation of costs for both the water and sewer infrastructure cost allocation and the annual calculation of utility services thereby reducing the shared cost to individual cabin owners.
If you are interested in bidding on a vacant lot, Dwight McMillan of RMNP can share with you the information for the five lots currently available and the lots that will be available in the future.

Fall 2012 AGM Minutes & Follow-up.

The minutes have been posted on the CLCA Website for all to see at .https://clearlakecabinassociation.org

Constitution Review

As noted in the Fall AGM minutes, a committee will be set up to review the CLCA Constitution under the chairmanship of our past President, Mr. Trevor Winters. Mr. Roy White was invited to sit on the committee and Ms. Joelle Robinson indicated interest as well. Mr. Winters will be contacting some others who expressed interest and making arrangements to meet accordingly. Recommendations from this committee will be made to the Board.

Website.

It was brought to our attention recently that our CLCA website was accessed /used for an unauthorized survey. The inappropriate survey was removed and the matter has been reviewed. Thank you for bringing such concerns to our attention as we strive to keep out website as accurate as possible with posting of only Board authorized information.

Marine- Boat Launch Fees

We were advised that although the Park has confirmed authority and intent to proceed with the introduction of boat launch fees (daily and/or seasonal permits), we are advised that this will not be occurring this summer.

Membership

We have 416 out of 525 cabin owners paid up at this time. Membership ($20) in the Clear Lake Cabin Association is for a 2 year period.
We have been collecting your e-mail addresses for the purpose of providing our members with timely information and to forward paid up members with electronic newsletters rather than paper copy in an effort to save money and to be more environmentally conscious. Members without e-mail addresses will be sent a hard copy of the newsletter.
Non paid up members will not receive a Newsletter however a copy of the newsletter will be posted “later” on the CLCA website.
As a result members will be getting information in a more timely fashion.
We encourage all cabin owners to be a member of CLCA and remind all when paying your dues to include your e-mail address as well.
We will put a reminder on our website as well that people are encouraged to purchase their membership through the mail as this saves the executive a lot of canvassing time throughout the summer.

Sincerely wishing one and all, a quiet and restful summer up at the Lake.

Brian McVicar
President
Clear Lake Cabin Association
April 30th, 2013

Board of Directors 2012 – 2013

President
Brian McVicar (elected Sept.2,2012)
4 Deer Place
Brandon, Mb. R7B 3B6
Residence: (204) 727-4777
e-mail: mcvicar@wcgwave.ca Cabin: 4 – 5th Street North

Past President:
Trevor Winters
15 Lachine Road
Winnipeg, Mb R2J 1X8
Residence: (204) 253-5449
e-mail: mistey@mts.net
Cabin: 23 – 2nd Street North
Phone: 848-2769

Vice President: (elected Sept 2,2012)
Scott Jordan
211 Fleetwood Road
Winnipeg, Mb.
Residence: (204) 222-7542
Cell: (204) 223-1265
204 487 0674 ( w )
e-mail: scottjordanclca@gmail.com

Secretary:
Gloria Belliveau ( elected Sept 2 2012)
3-5 Main Str.
P.O. Box 884
Stoney Mountain, Mb.
Residence: (204) 344 5940
Cabin Phone 204 848 2952
e-mail: g_belliveau@live.com
Cabin: 21 – 3rd Street North

Treasurer ( elected Sept 2,2012)
Joyce Harland
165 Red Moon Road
Winnipeg Mb. R3X 0C4
e-mail: joyceharland@gmail.com
Cabin: 18 – 2nd Street South Phone: (204) 250-7965

Board Members
Kevin Alguire
1731 – 31st Avenue SW
Calgary Alberta T2T 1S6
Residence: (403) 245-9623
Fax: (403) 245-9004
Cell: (403) 803-6695
e-mail: kjalguire@shaw.ca

Paul Barnabe ( elected Sept 2, 2012)
Box 365
Emerson, Mb.
Res 204 873 2621
Cell 204 304 0378
Cabin 20-5th street North ( new -#543)
Email – paulbarnabe@hotmail.com

Brad Collette ( elected Sept 2, 2012)
221 MacLeod Ave.West
Dauphin, Mb.
R7N 0H4
Cell 204 648 4509
Cabin 70-4th Str. South
E-mail- joelleandbrad@gmail.com

Nelda Didychuk
39 Hunterspoint Road
Winnipeg, Manitoba R3R 3B6
Residence: (204) 895-8267
Cell:204 471 0267
Cabin: 35 – 2nd Street North
e-mail: edidychuk@mts.net

John George (re-elected Sept 2,2012)
15 Hazelwood Cres.
Brandon, Mb. R7A 2J8
Residence: (204) 726-4096
Cell: (204) 724-6136
Work:204 727 2333 Work Cell 204 573 5948
e-mail: jageorge@mts.net
Cabin: 4 – 4th Street South

Joan James
Box 567
Neepawa, Mb. R0J 1H0
Residence: (204) 476-2570
Cell: (204) 476-6161
e-mail: ejames567@mts.net
Cabin: 14 – 2nd Street North

Jo Ann Lombaert
4 Marquis Crescent
Brandon, Manitoba R7B 3R8
Residence: (204) 761-5582
Cell:204 721 4582
Cabin: 9 – 5th Street South
e-mail: jo-ann51@hotmail.com

Keith Vinthers (elected Sept 2,2012)
33 Prelude Bay
Brandon, Mb R7B 3T3
H 204 727 0797
C 204 724 2170
e-mail: vinthers@wcgwave.ca

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Water turned on in Campground

Well it looks like we have survived the long cold winter and now the ground has warmed up enough that The Park has been able to finally turn on the water in the campground. We will have water for the long weekend after all. Thanks to all that worked hard getting this done.

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Cabin And Bathroom Shed Example

Outdoor washroom for clear lake cabin areaHere is a picture of a cabin with a bathroom shed. The park has approved the use of bathroom sheds for cabins that are 24 feet or less in length. These sheds, complete with toilet, sink, shower, in wall heater, hot water tank and one window, can be moved in behind your cabin for a cost of approx $5000.

They can be built by Twilite Hi Pro Mfg Ltd (or you can build your own). The contact person there is George Wollman at 204 476 3126 or 877 476 7557. This company may require a minimum number of orders before beginning production.

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SAMPLE BATHROOM SHED DESIGN

bathroom shed

Above is a sample bathroom shed design in a pdf file. In order to view it, click on it and print it.

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LEASE INFORMATION

UPDATING CABIN INSURANCE TO INCLUDE HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN:   Just phone your insurance company and explain what you need to do, give them your new lot number, found on the last page of your lease,  and have them email you confirmation that they are adding Her Majesty to your policy.  Then you can forward this confirmation on to Dale Wallis at The Park.  Dale’s email is as follows:  dale.wallis@pc.gc.ca

 

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LEASE INFORMATION FORMS

I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE TO SEND IN YOUR LEASE INFORMATION FORMS THAT YOU RECEIVED LAST WEEK FROM THE PARK AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

BE SURE TO CHECK OFF WHICH OPTION YOU PREFER AND IF YOU HAVE ANY NAME CHANGES OR ADDITIONS PLEASE HAVE THEM NOTORIZED.  (pages 2 and 3)

IF YOUR LEASE NAME WILL REMAIN THE SAME AS YOUR SEASONAL PERMIT WAS, THERE IS NO NEED FOR HAVING YOUR SIGNATURE NOTORIZED.  JUST SEND IN PAGES 1 AND 4.

 

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Annual General Meeting Minutes, September 2, 2012

ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING

PARK THEATRE, WASAGAMING

SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 2nd, 2012

 

President Trevor Winters introduced Roy White as our Parliamentarian and Roy gave a short biography of his qualifications and experiences.

Trevor also asked  Roy to be chairman of the elections as Past President Bruce Hembroff is not available.

Trevor asked any members of the press that were in attendance to come forward at the end of the meeting and he would give them copies of our constitution and handouts,

Trevor explained the new voting cards and procedures – colour coded cards for voting and elections.

Trevor said that Nelda Didychuk and Jo-Ann Lambaert arranged scrutineers.

Trevor reminded members that each cabin has only 1 vote.  At the Spring General Meeting a motion was moved and seconded by 2 people in the same cabin.

The meeting was called to order at 10:13 a.m.

President Trevor introduced the Board Members.

President Trevor asked if there were any additions to the agenda.

Randy Woodman, 23 – 3rd St. S. – suggested the agenda be put on line.

President Trevor said we would try to put it on line about a week before meetings,

Randy Woodman said there is nothing set out in the agenda to deal with major decisions and suggested that an amendment be made to designate who makes major decisions.  He would like a motion be made to lay out that major decisions be made by a vote.

Roy White explained that there is nothing in the constitution and suggested a motion would need to be made.

Randy Woodman, 23 – 3rd St.S. – Could there be a motion  added today.

Roy White – It can be added today.

Randy Woodman, 23 – 3rd St. S. – Would like this added to the agenda

3rd St.N. – Would like a committee to review the constitution.

Roy White – We need a motion to do that.

Randy Woodman, 23 – 3rd St. S. – is disturbed about comments made by Roy White in the Annual Spring Meeting held at the Jamboree Hall on July 2nd, 2012.  Randy asked what the mechanism is if members do not agree with decisions of the Board.  If you provide 30 days notice of a motion, it requires a 2/3 vote.  Randy suggested that there should be some mechanism to address what members can do if they disagree with the Board.

Roy White responded that they can remove elected representatives by voting them out of office,

Randy Woodman, 23 – 3rd St. S. – There is no mechanism to remove Board Members from office.

President Trevor –The process if you disagree with the Board is to give a 30 day Notice of Motion for the following meeting.

Randy Woodman, 23 – 3rd St.S. – suggests a change in the constitution  to allow changes.

President Trevor explained that when something is not clear in the constitution, you go to Bourninot’s Rules.

Greg Fleck, 25 – 3rd St. S. – Randy Woodman is asking for the constitution to be made clearer.  They want a review of the constitution to specify when the Board can make a decision.

President Trevor asked that this discussion be left for Item 10 on the agenda.

MOTION:  That we accept the agenda as amended.  Moved by Sandra Kluka, 75 – 3rd St. S., seconded by John George, 4 – 4th St. S., Carried.

MOTION:  That we accept the Minutes of the Annual General Meeting of September 4th, 2011 as distributed.  Moved by Esther Mark, 30 – 1st St. N., seconded by Bob Parnell, 6 – 4th St.S., Carried.

MATTERS ARISING FROM MINUTES:

The Community Plan remains unsigned.

Speed Limit Signs have not been placed on the wood sheds due to the costs.

The web site issues seem to be resolved as we have moved to a new server.  There has not been any more spam.

The survey has been completed and reported on.

PRESIDENT’S REPORT:

Trevor Winters explained that the Board is a volunteer Board and are only an advisory Board to Parks Canada.  According to parliamentary procedure, we refer to Bourinot’s Rules for clarification.

INTRODUCTION:

As of this annual meeting, I have completed 4 years as President and Chairman of the CLCA so this, my final report to you, will be slightly different than previous reports.  Before I enter into a report on Board activities I want to offer a few comments for your consideration.

  1. The CLCA is a volunteer board with advisory authority only.  We operate under a Constitution and By-laws which are established and approved by you, the cabin owner members of the CLCA.  These are on our web site for everyone to see and review
  2. The position of President and Chairman is unique.  A Chairman runs meetings in a timely appropriate fashion and a President answers members’ questions on behalf of the Board.  Board members are always welcome to make comments, but the President will be the designated spokesman.  During the course of our meetings, it will be necessary to switch roles between Chairman and President, depending on questions or comments from members.  In the past, this change of roles has been understood and tolerated by members, but I have found that this switching of responsibilities is disconcerting and confusing especially for graduates or participants of Toastmasters.  They are correct that the 2 positions as defined by parliamentary process are separate and will often raise Points of Order to the effect that when the Chair is responding as President, the Chair should be turned over to another individual in order to maintain impartiality.  This can be accomplished by turning the chair over to the Vice-President during these periods, BUT that starts dragging our meeting through time consuming “process and procedure” which serves to eat up time.  This is an issue that the CLCA Board and membership may need to address, – we can proceed as we do now on the understanding that one individual holds two separate positions, or we can change it.  For meetings to run smoothly there needs to be recognition of the two roles, or we need to separate the functions.
  3. I want to stress is that serving on the Board is voluntary, and those of us on the Board do it because someone needs to be sure the voice of cabin owners is heard at the Parks Canada level and in the various committees and sub-committees of Park users.
  4. I would encourage everyone to read and understand our Constitution and By-laws and even Bourinot’s Rules of Parliamentary Procedure Fourth Edition in order to help meetings run smoothly and efficiently.  Neither are fun reading but for the past few years we have experienced a mis-interpretation of procedural rules to attempt to sway opinions  There are correct rules of procedure and as an Association, we have been fortunate to have one of the pre-eminent authorities on procedure to assist with correct rulings.

This past year has been an extremely busy year and obviously controversial.  The decision in January of 2012 to accept Parks Canada’s offer for a dual system for provision of water and sewer services in the cabin area, and our recommendation to proceed, is not a decision that will ever be accepted by every single cabin owner.  The Board knew that then, and we know it now.  Since that decision we have heard stories and allegations that some cabin owners will be forced to sell because of the $5000 infrastructure charge (which can be amortized for as long as 20 years if that is your wish).  On the other hand, as President I hear from cabin owners, who due to health issues, will be selling their cabins if they do not get a washroom and water into their cabins.  Is the dual system perfect?  In my opinion as President and Chairman it is as close to perfect as we can achieve.  No cabin owner is forced to sell for either financial or health reasons.  People may opt to sell because of increases caused by the rent review, but they are not forced to sell over water and sewer.  No one has to plumb in their cabin, but we will all now support and be in compliance, with the national regulation on water and sewer as is stated in our Constitution.

I speak for the Board when I say that given the clearly stated Park Regulations regarding water and sewer, that we see that Parks Canada has, by all accounts, done us a favour be providing a dual system.  I recognize that not all cabin owners will agree with this, and as a board we have provided all information that we possibly could.  Clearly as a cabin area we had reached a point where either we moved forward, or that recommendation was in all likelihood, going to be taken out of our hands.   We will come into compliance with National Regulations, we will not be forced into installing plumbing in our cabins.  This is a fair and reasonable solution, at a fair and reasonable cost.

FUTURE YEARS:

Future Boards will continue to have challenges to deal with and as cabin owners we will have decisions to make.  One of the primary responsibilities of a Board is to look into the future and bring issues (as they are identified), forward to membership for their review, understanding and recommendation.  There will be issues beyond the dual system which future boards will have to deal with and I would like to lay a few of these out for your consideration.

  1. Back lanes – we are having a few issues with back lanes that are causing significant operational problems for the Park.  Back lanes are getting overgrown with trees and we are encroaching on the back lanes as well.  If we are to continue running blading equipment, garbage and wood trucks down the back lanes, there has to be adequate room.
  2. Trees – we need to be thinking about a structured plan to cull out the older trees and start a re-planting effort.   Thinking that our current trees are all saveable is not realistic, they are not salvageable and we need to look at how we are going to deal with them.
  3. Future of the town site and Park fees.  We are a short season Park and always will be.  That presents issues for our restaurants and businesses that are unique from Banff or Jasper.  This will be discussed at length at the WTA and reported to you, but there are lots of ideas in the cabin area which we can bring forward to the WTA
  4. Cost of Park services and what we as property owners are expected to contribute as compared to the citizens of Canada.  Environmental programs are conducted for the benefit of all Canadians so how much do we as park tenents pay, and how much should we pay beyond the average Canadian.
  5. Cook Shacks – I am a very strong supporter of the cook shacks, but not everyone is, and as President I do hear about this.  In the future this will likely be a discussion topic.
  6. Rentals, as an association we likely need to think about rentals because as our site costs have increased, people may want to rent their cabin for a month or a few weeks every summer to help off-set their costs.  Do we need a set of guidelines on rentals.
  7. Lease options – as there are 3 options available to us for leases, we need to understand the implications of each option before we commit to it.
  8. Boat storage and car parking, depending on whether you own a boat or not there will be differing opinions, but our area is tight, so parking is an issue.
  9. Building guidelines and the building of ready to move cabins (RTM’s).  RTM’s are a great solution to less construction in our area, but what about our roads and trees, hydro lines are a separate independent issue
  10. Telephone and hydro lines, do we bury them.

In the past 4 years the Board has worked very hard.  We have established a functional web site, developed Board policy on important issues to our area, provided accurate and timely newsletters, actively researched and reported to cabin owners on issues in the park and our area, had a health inspector come in to inspect our facilities, started the process of tree renewal through a very proactive approach, written a set of operational by-laws, conducted a review of building guidelines, pro-actively took on a forward look at our issues by co-operating with the Park on a comprehensive survey and offered special cook shack meetings to bring discussions to smaller more comfortable groups.  I thank the board for all their work, because it has been considerable.

I want to stop at this, but before I sit down I want acknowledge and thank everyone I have worked with over the past 4 years.  In particular, I want to acknowledge the current board, for having the foresight to understand an offer from Parks Canada that everyone knew would be contentious, for having the wisdom to discuss and analyze that offer in a rational and reasonable way, for having the courage to act on the offer and the discussion we had,  and finally to have the strength of character to remain firm to the solid, sensible decision that was made and to continue to patiently explain the decision to those who are concerned.  I thank you and acknowledge you as going way beyond any expectation for a volunteer Board.  Thank You

As we have an extremely full agenda and I expect that several items will take some time as we work through them, so lets get started, especially as we want to be out of here by noon.

Trevor Winters

President, Clear Lake Cabin Association

UPDATE FROM PARKS CANADA:

Dale Wallis reported that they are going to  forge ahead whether the community plan is signed or not.

Dale reported that the response to the medial emergency at the Spring Members Meeting (a person had collapsed due to the heat) was slow due to the congestion in the area of the Jamboree Hall.  The Park is considering the purchase of a manual pump system which would be transportable.

The Park has been considering emergency evacuation plans for the cabin area.  Collapsible poles will be placed in the old road exits to allow quick exits in emergencies.

The Jamboree Hall is in need of repairs to the facia and shingles and they are hoping for some funding for these repairs.

Marilyn Mutter, 107 – 3rd St. S. – raised an issue re the conditions for connection to sewer and water.  Once the lease is signed,  If a cabin is sold, do the owners first have to connect to sewer and water.

Dale Wallis –   That is not the intention.  After the sale, the new owner should connect.

Marilyn Mutter, 107 – 3rd St. S. – Would like to have this clarification made.

Dale Wallis – Will make this clarification.

Randy Woodman, 23 – 3rd St. S. – Regarding the dual system, it is a fair assumption that at some point a decision will be made re the usage of washrooms.  Will it be Parks Canada that makes that decision

Dale Wallis – According to the agreement, nothing will be done for 5 years, and then the future of each building will be decided only through discussion with the Board.

Trevor Winters, 23 – 2nd St. N. – What about the shower building.

Dale Wallis – The shower building is a separate issue.  It will remain until it is no longer required.  The Board in discussion with the Park will make those decisions.

Greg Fleck, 25 – 3rd St. S. – would like to encourage the Board to provide members with detailed  information  on the impact of issues.  For example, if there is an expansion of lot sizes adding trees to a lot, there could be additional cost to members when those trees needed to be removed.  The Board should try to keep members informed

Dale Wallis – There may be some expansion of lots as the surveyors are unable to put the pegs in the ground due to the trees.  The cost of removal or care of the trees falls to the owners.  Removal of trees for development purposes is the responsibility of the cabin owners.

Pam Lucenkiw, 30 – 3rd St.N. – Asked about the status of sheds in the development of the guidelines.

Dwight McMillan – A cabin measuring 16 x 24 can have a shed, but a cabin of 16 x 32 cannot have a shed.  A shed must fall within the total square footage

Pam Lucenkiw, 30 – 3rd St.N. – Has a concern about the trees as more and more are coming down.

Dwight McMillan –This will be discussed with the new board.

Pam Lucenkiw, 30 – 3rd St. N. – Is there a plan re reforestation

Dwight McMillan –This is one of the plans that will go forward with the new board.

Dale Wallis – Explained that this had been a challenging year and expressed his thanks to all owners who talked to them about issues of concern to them.  Dale asked members to continue to phone, email or visit over the winter.

Dwight McMillan – He will send out  information on leases and sewer and water as it comes available. He also extended an invitation to members to contact him.

Barry Randell, 74 – 1st St. S. – Will the park gates be open all winter?  Will this create issues re fire insurance, etc.?  What about snow removal?  This winter will be busy.

Dwight McMillan – There are thoughts about closing construction in July and August.  The leases will allow members to occupy cabins from April 1st to October 31st and the Park will try to have the water on longer, depending on weather.  Yes, the gates will be open this winter.

Barry Randell, 74 – 1st St. S. – Will the fire hydrants be operational in the winter.

Dwight McMillan – No.

Todd Gutz, 53 – 2nd St.S.  – Asked for explanations about the 20’ height and the flow of water.

Dwight McMillan – Explained that in 2005 phase 1 of sewer and water, deep water was put in – designed for phase 2 – all information is now in place.  The height of the cabin from the ground up to the floor is up to the plumber as he needs to have access under the cabin.   The maximum cabin height from the finished floor to the peak is 20 feet.

Lisa Ross, 14 – 1st St. S. – Would like information from the Park re elevations, etc.  Will the Park provide drawings, etc. so the plumbers know what to do.

Dwight McMillan – Yes, there will be drawings the plumbers can access.  The Park hopes to start work in the fall of 2013.  The Board will be updated, and information will be put on the website.

Lisa Ross, 14 –  1st St. S. – Will the plans be ready by next spring.  Would like the information on the website as soon as possible.

Dwight McMillan – The office will try to get the information to the Board quickly.

Lisa Ross, 14 – 1st St. S. – The Board should post information on the website and hopefully have a newsletter.

Lynn Smith, 49 – 4th St. S. – Questioned that each lot is valued at $75,000.00.  She feels that lots backing on the lane are less valuable.   What is the process of deciding the value of the lot is $75,000.00.

Dale Wallis – The process for appraisals is managed through Parks Canada public works.  They hire a company to do the assessment.  The assessors said all lots are equal. The assessment can be arbitrated once your lease is signed.  The assessment to date is tentative as the final assessment will be done by the end of October.  Once this information is available, the documentation  will be sent out.

Lynn Smith, 49- 4th St. S. – What is the process to look at the big picture, the whole area re back lanes, garbage, etc.  How can members have input?

Dale Wallis – The Board determines member meetings, cookshack meetings, etc.  Members can speak to the Park personally.  The Park has data from surveys, individual members visits to the office, etc.  We need to talk about what works for members.  We want to see community continue to develop. (example – take a tree, plant a tree)

Trevor Winters – The Board tried cookshack meetings two years ago, but really had only 2 or 3 small ones.  We all need to talk about issues.

Gord Mutter, 107 – 3rd St. S. – Feels that the $75,000.00 lease value cannot be substantiated.  The Board should negotiate with Parks Canada to bring the amount down.  Parks Canada needs to negotiate with the Board.

Dale Wallis – The assessment was done without consideration with sewer and water.   No one has a leasehold there, so the evaluation was done on what the land is worth.   Parks Canada or the Board cannot argue the evaluation.  The evaluations are provided by Public Works.

Tim Basaraba, 5 – 2nd St. N. – The value of $75,000.00 is too high.  There is infrastructure there, how much still to be done. He suggests that the lines not run to the cabin fronts, but members run lines themselves in the spring of any year.

Dwight McMillan – The assessed value of all lots is $75,000.00 no matter what the value of the cabin.  Parks Canada decided to go to the property line.  50% of the infrastructure is now done, the other 50% remains to be done.  Parks Canada decided to go to the front of the cabin to avoid further disruption to the streets.

Dale Wallis – Just received an emergency message that Washroom 9 would be closed for the rest of the weekend.

Trevor Winters – Joan James has developed a single sheet describing the leases and sewer and water giving comparisons.   Staying on one year camping permits will cost $2,300 per year.   Leases and sewer and water approximately $1,525.00 to $1,550.00 per year.  There will be a one time infrastructure charge of $5,000.00.  If any member wishes, the Erickson Credit Union will loan the $5,000.00 and amortize it over 20 years with an average yearly payment of $368.00.  If you choose the lease option tied to the Consumer Price Index, the lease rate will only increase by approximately $15.00 per year.  As the Municipality of Park expand the use of the water treatment plant, our fees will go down.  The release fee will be waived.

TREASURER’S REPORT:

Clear Lake Cabin Association Treasurer’s Report as of August 31, 2012

Revenue:  As of June 29, 2012                                                                            $3,994.06

                   Income from Memberships                                                                 5,880.00

Total Revenue to August 31, 2012                                                                     $9.874.06

Expenses:  Bank Cheques                                                            $  31.50

         Printing                                                                96.79

Eyepatch Sweatshirts                                   228.10

Board meeting hall rental – June 30/12                          40.00

Board meeting hall rental – August 26/12                   100.00

Coffee and Buns for meeting – August 26/12     20.79

Receipt books and voting cards                                         14.61

Total Expenses to August 31, 2012                                                                 $  531.79

Total Assets to August 31, 2012                                                                       $9,342.27

Westoba Bank Balance as of July 31, 2012                  $8,404.67

Add outstanding membership deposits               1,060.00

Subtract outstanding cheques                                              135.40

Add Westoba Equity                                                                    8.00

Add Westoba Share                                                                     5.00

Bank Reconciliation                                                                                             $9,342.27

Respectfully submitted by Joyce Harland, Treasurer of CLCA.

Members in attendance  –  173

Proxies                                    –   84

Total Cabins Represented –257

Motion to accept the Treasurer’s Report as presented by John George, seconded by Roy White. Carried.

ELECTIONS:

President Trevor called on Roy White to preside over the elections.

As Roy White is not running for re-election,  he will be running the election.

Nominated for the president of the Board –Gary Cavanagh

Roy called for further nominations.  Bernie Williams, 12 – 4th St. S. – nominated Brian McVicar.  Brian accepted.  John George moved nominations close, seconded by Mary Kreutzer, 72 – 3rd St. S., carried.

Scrutineers announced 95 votes for Gary and 146 votes for Brian. Brian McVicar is the new president

Nominated for Vice President –  Scott Jordan, no further nominations, Scott declared elected.

Nominated for Secretary – Gloria Belliveau , no further nominations, Gloria declared elected.

Nominated for Treasurer – Joyce Harland, no further nominations, Joyce declared elected.

Nominated for Board –  John George, Joan James, Keith Vinters and Brad Collett.

Call for nominations from the floor. Gary Toews, 36 – 1st St. S. – nominated Nathan Fleck.  Jody LaFleche nominated Paul Barnabe.  Lisa Ross nominated Larry Janzen. Nominations declared closed.  Elected to the Board for a two year term are John George, Joan James, Keith Vinters, Brad Collett and Paul Barnabe.

GENERAL BUSINESS:

SPEED BUMPS have been requested on the South Road.

Dale Wallis said they have put movable speed bumps on Tawapit and found that they had to move them many times due to complaints about noise.  Speed bumps really have not been very effective.  Dale also has a concern as bikers have been injured.  Perhaps need to try stop signs, etc.

Trevor Winters – Discussion is required on this issue.

Brian McVicar – Please take down license numbers, make of cars, etc., and bring it to the attention of the Board and/or the Park.

Randy Woodman, 23 – 3rd  St. N. – Near a school in Winnipeg, they have four speed bumps in a row.

Trevor Winters – Take down the information.  No further action needed.

BUILDING GUIDELINES REVIEW – The Board will meet with Dwight McMillan respecting the height of cabins.

CONSTITUTION – Trevor Winters asked Brian McVicar to take over the chair.

Wayne Clayton, 109 – 3rd St. S. – We need to look at the constitution and tighten things up to make it clearer.  Motion that a special committee be struck on the constitution to report back to the Spring Members Meeting in July, 2013.

Gary Toews, 36 – 1st St. S. – Would be reported back with recommendations.

Wayne Clayton, 109 – 3rd St. S. – Bring back recommendations on the constitution.  It is time for a review.

Trevor Winters, 23 – 2nd St. N. – It is stated very clearly in our constitution.  Rules of Procedure in Bourinot if not covered in our constitution.  A motion requires 30 days motion with a 2/3 majority.

Wayne Clayton, 109 – 3rd St. S. – We just need clarification

Unknown,     – 4th St. N. – A review is good, Major issues need a mail in vote.

Brad Collette, 70 – 4th St. S. – Would like Joelle Robinson’s name put forward for the committee.

Greg Fleck, 25 – 3rd St. S. – Members should have the constitution they want.

Brian McVicar – There is interest in reviewing the constitution.  Will call for vote

Gerald Young, 13 – 4th St. N. – The motion did not say form a committee.

Randy Woodman, 23 -3rd St. S. – The Board is an advisory board only, however, the Board is recognized as authority by the Park.  Should there be a mechanism how these decisions are made.

Greg Fleck, 25 – 3rd St. S. – Looking for way members can help the Board make the decisions and give some direction to the Board.

Wayne Clayton,  109 – 3rd St. S. – Did not take exception to Board’s action, supports Trevor’s information to members, but just wants to clarify his position.

Brent Munroe, 75 – 2nd St. S. – Make a motion with regarding major decisions, things which cause members thousands of dollars.

Brian McVicar – This is inappropriate.  Many people have left and a new Board has been elected.  Similar tactics as used in the July meeting.

Brent Munroe, 75 – 2nd St. S. – Want to prevent issues be including review.

Trevor Winters, 23 – 2nd St. N. – The Board will strike a committee to deal with major decisions.

Wayne Clayton,  109 – 3rd St. S. – Will withdraw Motion.

Brent Munroe, 75 – 2nd St.S. – Will withdraw motion.

Trevor Winters returned to chair the meeting.

CONSTITUTION AMENDMENT

MOTION:   That the CLCA Constitution be amended in Article III, entitled “Fees”, to add subsection 3, to state:  “The membership period shall be for two years commencing April 1, of every even year, and terminating March 31, of the subsequent even year,”  Moved by Gary Cavanagh, seconded by John George. Carried.

Trevor Winters thanked Gary Cavanagh for his many years of service to the Board.  He also thanked everyone in attendance.

Motion by Gary Toews that the ballots be destroyed. Seconded by Brent Munroe. Carried.

Next Meeting will be held at the Jamboree Hall on June 30th, 2013.

Meeting adjourned at 11:18 a.m.

The above minutes have been posted for information purposes only and still need to be  accepted by the membership at the AGM in September, 2013.

 

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CABIN DESIGN PLANS

Newer design plans are available.  Contact the RMNP office. May 2024

Further to the CLCA September 29th, 2012 AGM, the Board has arranged to have a number of basic cabin plans designed to assist persons who may be interested in building in the CLCA area.

Although people are directed to contact the Park for any and all building related guidelines, related questions and approvals, it is our understanding that the Park will accept a design with an engineering stamp. This would be a less expensive alternative than an architectural stamp. Mr Wholgemuth can arrange for a professional stamp on request, as can some builders. There is always an additional charge for a professional stamp.

The cost to have the plans completed by Mr. Wholgemuth is $300.00.

We are advised that an Architect could charge up to $10,000 to design a cabin plan and/or up to 10% of the building cost simply for the Architectural stamp. As such, on a $100,000.00 cabin the cost of using an Architect could be approximately $1,000.00 or up to $11,000.00

Since the Park has indicated that it will accept an engineer stamp, a person using the information provided by the CLCA could save themselves a significant amount of money.

If you are interested in purchasing the detailed plans, Mr. Wohlgemuth can be reached at the information below.

 

Bruce Wohlgemuth

TRUDRAW DRAFTING

Box 81     Riding Mountain, MB     R0J 1T0

Phone 204-967-2465    Fax 204-967-2466

email: bruce@trudraw.com

 

 

click on the links below to open the PDF file

 

SAMPLE DRAWING

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SAMPLE DRAWING

 

 

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CLEAR LAKE CABIN ASSOCIATION GENERAL MEETING MINUTES, JULY 1, 2012

CLCA SPRING GENERAL MEETING

SUNDAY, JULY 1st, 2012

JAMBOREE HALL, CLEAR LAKE

  Prior to the meeting being called to order the following items took place:

 PRESENTATION:  In acknowledgement of the 35 years of entertaining service of the Clear Lake Eye Patch Band, Gary Cavanagh and John George, on behalf of the CLCA, presented monogrammed sweatshirts to Ron Kille, Don Kille, Ron Thomas and Don Sullivan.

 PRESENTATION:  Dale Wallis, Townsite Manager, explained the policy of Parks Canada with respect to the issue of sewer and water.  He informed the meeting that our campground was NOT in compliance with the National Parks Act, and this non-compliance would not have been allowed much longer.

 PRESENTATION:  Our President, Trevor Winters, read and explained the Rules of Procedure for the meeting. He also introduced Roy White as our Parliamentary Expert.

 President Trevor Winters called the meeting to order at 11:25 a.m.

 Hugh Davis, 21 – 3rd St. S – called a Point of Order.

 President Trevor Winters ruled him Out of Order.

 Roy White asked Mr. Davis to please put away the Megaphone and use the microphone we provided. Mr. Davis replied that he did not have to as he had his own.  Mr. White again requested he put away the Megaphone as there was no place for it in this meeting.  Mr. White then clarified the Rules of the Constitution.

 Bruce Hembroff = 53 – 5th St. S. – spoke on Rules of Order, disagreeing with the President’s Rules of Order.

 Hugh Davis – 21 – 3rd St. S. – challenged the President’s ruling.

 President Trevor Winters ruled the challenge Out of Order.

  Garry Paton, 42 – 1st St. S. – Asked whether the President’s ruling stands or not.

 John Bachewich, 42 – 1st St. S. – MOTION – I move that we challenge the ruling of the chair.

 Voting Results – In Favour – 109, Opposed – 161, MotionOverturned.

 Returning to Agenda items:

 INTRODUCTION OF BOARD MEMBERS

 Past President – Bruce Hembroff

President           – Trevor Winters

Vice President – Gary Cavanagh

Secretary          – Gloria Belliveau

Treasurer          – Joyce Harland

Board Members – Joan James

                                  Brian McVicar

                                  John George

                                  Roy  White

                                  Scott Jordan

                                  Kevin Alguire

                                  Nelda Didychuk

                                     Jo-Ann Lambaert

 REVIEW OF PROCEDURES

 Brent Munroe, 75 – 2nd St. S. – Requested information re the voting.  Was told it would be tallied and given to him later.  This is when the comparison between the number of votes and number of cabin owners was tallied with 270 votes cast and 332 owners registered.

 REVIEW OF AGENDA

 MOTION: Moved by Andy Urbanowicz, 23 – 1st St. S., and seconded by Wayne Clayton, 109 – 3rd St. S that the agenda be accepted as presented.   CARRIED.

 APPROVAL OF SPRING MEETING, JULY 3rd, 2011

 Moved by Brent Munroe, 75 – 2nd St. S. that we approve the minutes of the members spring meeting of July 3rd, 2011 as distributed.  Seconded by Anne Kadyschuk, 90 – 3rd St. S. CARRIED.

 MATTERS ARISING

 Wayne Clayton, 109 – 3rd St. S. – We were told at the meeting last July that the Community Plan would be signed last August, and it is still not signed, what is being done.  President Trevor Winters replied that letters have been written to the Minister, with copies to MLA’s, Park Superintendent and Western and Northern Manager in Calgary.  The matter is still ongoing.

 Brent Munroe, 75 – 2nd St. S. – asked if there was a reason the wording in the invoice Service Fees was changed to Town Maintenance Fees.  Dwight McMillan, Parks Canada, replied that it was simply a change in wording and did not mean anything other than that.

 TREASURER’S REPORT

 Clear Lake Cabin Association Treasurer’s Report as of June 28, 2012

Revenue:  As of April 30, 2012                                                           $5,147.18

                        Income from memberships                2,120.00

                        Refund from One&One Website server                  10.14

Total Revenue to June 28, 2012                                                                   $7,277.32

Expenses:  Printing, stamps, envelopes for mail-outs           1,343.73

Ink cartridge and receipt books                                                             26.22

     President’s mileage re printing – 100 km.x .40                       40.00                                                                                                              Roy White’s mileage from Wpg.to meeting & lunch June 9     200.00

WTA fees for 2012                                                                                  1,000.00

Trevor Winter’s lunch for WTA meeting Sept. 2011                    18.18

Hall rental for Board Meeting and buns – May 19/12               60.25

Friends of RMNP – rental for Board Meeting – June 9/12           55.00

Cam Heming – New Website Design – May 23/12                    483.00

Go Daddy – New website server (1 yr. term) May 24/12                            56.88

Total Expenses to June 28, 2012                                           $3,283.26

Total Assets to June 28, 2012                                                                         $3,994.06

Westoba Bank Balance as of May 31, 2012               $5, 037.16

Add Outstanding Membership Deposits                     1,300.00

Add Outstanding Refund                                                                  10.14

Subtract Outstanding Cheques                                              2.366.24

Add Westoba Equity & Westoba Share                                13.00

Bank Reconciliation                                                                                        $3,994.06

Respectfully submitted by Joyce Harland, Treasurer of CLCA.

Acceptance of Treasurer’s Report made by Joyce Harland, seconded by Brent Munroe. Carried.

 PRESIDENT’S REPORT

 President Trevor Winters had previously handed out a rate comparison sheet comparing the rates paid in nearby campgrounds.  He now asked people to read them to help understand the increases that would come if we stayed on the one year camping permit.

 President Trevor Winters asked Dale Wallis, Townsite Manager, to speak on the Sewer and Water and Lease issues.  Dale felt that the major issue regarding Sewer and  Water was the up front payment of $5,000.00.  Dale explained that both the CLCA Board and the Park are looking for ways to pay the $5,000.00 instead of having to pay it up front, and they will continue to do so.

 Trevor reported that information has been sent out to all cabin owners.  He explained that the lease fees are based on the lot values which are currently $75,000.00 per lot.

                Lease fees (based on $75,000.00) $1,125.00

                Water & Sewer, Garbage, etc.       $ 425.00

                                                                           $1,550.00 in 2013

If we can get the $5,000.00 amortised over 10 years it would be $500.00 per year.

 With regard to the inquiries he has received regarding sewer and water, Trevor reported that 5 people just wanted additional information, 8 people indicated support and 10 people disliked the decision.  The vast majority of people seem to favour the dual system.  The dual system was first raised by a special committee of the CLCA Board back in 2007, but at that time Parks Canada would not agree with this concept.  In January of this year, Dale Wallis of Parks Canada said they were prepared to run a dual system for as long as it is required.  It seemed to your Board that this would satisfy the owners who wanted Sewer and Water, and also satisfy the owners who did not want Sewer and Water.  The Board felt it was an offer that was too difficult to turn down, and the motion was passed.  It was after the motion was passed that Dale informed us that we were not in compliance with the National Parks Act, and he did not know how long they would allow us to remain in non-compliance.  The Board hoped that this solution would stop the acrimony and fighting, and start the healing process for all.  Your Board are still actively working on a solution for funding for the $5,000.00 and will continue to do so.

 Bruce Hembroff – 53 – 5th St. S. –  spoke on the value of leases.  He feels that all lots are not the same, but no consideration seemed to be given.  QUESTION:  What is the process re a dispute on the price? SECOND QUESTION:  Is kitchenette maintenance included? THIRD QUESTION:  Regarding the dual system, who pays to operate both systems?

 Dale Wallis replied that land assessments are done according to rules.  The final value will be decided next April, presently is $75,000.00.  Challenges can occur after the lease is signed, may be by arbitration or in Federal Court. Maintenance of the kitchenettes will likely fall under the municipal Assistance Fund, which hopefully will show a funding increase for the cabin area.  This fund is reviewed annually by the WTA.

 With respect to the dual system, at some point in time, the washrooms will be at the end of their lifetime.  The signed agreement says they will stay as long as needed; no one will be forced to put sewer and water in their cabin.

 Regan Smith, 32 – 4th St. N. – expressed a concern about the difference between permits and leases, and asked about upgrades. She gave as an example the swimming docks as there are many in the cottage area and only 2 in ours.  She would like either more docks in our area or the current docks enlarged.

 Dale explained that two of the differences between permits and leases are that you cannot get a loan with a permit but can with a lease, and the rate for permits will go up every 5 years.  With regard to the docks, if it was felt that item was wanted, it would have to be identified so it could go on the work plan.

 Wayne Clayton, 109 – 3rd St. S –asked for further explanation about the regulations requiring hook-up to Sewer and Water.

 Dale Wallis – explained that the Parks Agency did not play the regulatory body.  The Water and Sewer regulations, enacted in about the year 2000 state “any building that abuts on a roadway shall connect to Sewer and Water.  For 12 years, the Parks Agency has been allowing the CLCA Board to decide when to move forward.

 Wayne  Clayton – 109 – 3rd St. S – Does whole campground need to connect, the whole campground is not a building.

 Dale Wallis – Every street has Sewer and Water.

 Wayne Clayton – 109 – 3rd St. S – The regulations state MUST connect.  Unless the Board gets in writing that the regulations will be met, it sounds that we will have to connect.

 Dale Wallis – The agreement in 2005 was to run the lines to the lot line.  The current agreement is to run the lines to the front of the cabin.  Parks Canada Agency agrees that this satisfies the regulation.

 President Trevor Winters – Parks Canada have been extremely   good regarding this regulation.

 Julian Shavers – 34 – 5th St. N. – What are the implications to the trees and shrubs?

 Dale Wallis – It is anticipated that the work will be done in the fall and spring as much as possible.  Three Quarters of the system is already in.  The lines are in the front street and there are not many shrubs or trees on the front street. The Park ensures the environment is not adversely affected.  In comparison, there is an impact on the environment of not doing the project.  In 1990, the assessment showed 1,000 violations.  The impact of emptying night pails in bushes, grey water pits under cabins, for example, has caused a spike in the fecal chloroform counts in the lake.  This causes a public safety issue – the Park is to protect the Park and the people in the Park.

 Greg Fleck – 25 – 3rd St. S. – There are three options regarding the lease, but I cannot see the reason for any other than Option 3.

 Trevor Winters – All options must be explained.

 Dale Wallis – The formulas are set in the regulations.  Some people have chosen options 1 or 2, but now all currently are in Option 3.

 Rob Gerry – 34 – 4th St. N. – Was there an engineering study re $5,000.00 infrastructure cost and is it tied to leases?

 Dale Wallis – Waskesieu did water and sewer first, then leases a few years later.  The assessment is not tied to leases, but was updated by the changes the Park made – i.e. – lines run to the front of the cabin.

 Jeff Sim –12 – 4th St. N. – Where does the line end?

 Dale Wallis – At the cabin.

 Judy Mueller – 78 – 2nd St. S. – When the public washrooms are closed, will they be closed all at once or one by one?

 Dale Wallis – After 5 years, the CLCA Board and Parks Canada will meet and review the need for each washroom.  The shower building can remain until the end of its lifetime.

 J. Frank Johnston –30 – 4th St. N. – Raised a concern about the letter which says pay the $5,000.00 or get kicked out.  He feels that under the circumstances, most things are amortized.  He is very upset by the idea that you would be kicked out if you do not pay. He also expressed a concern that the survey was not a vote.  He feels that the Board has not worked hard enough to convince the government to amortize the $5,000.00.

 Trevor Winters – Trevor explained that the committee is working very hard on this issue, and in fact, have a meeting with Robert Sopuck this week.

 Dale Wallis – He would like to see the letter threatening to kick out anyone who does not pay.  He explained that the Park has never kicked anyone out and is always willing to work with people.  With regard to the statement that the Park is broke, in clarification, the Park has used up its lending capacity with the water treatment plant, etc.; therefore, they do not qualify for any more money.  Like the CLCA Board, the Park has not given up trying and has not finished exploring opportunities.

 Tania Cobbe–19 – 3rd St. S. – Thanked all Boards, previous and present, for their hard work, all voluntary and in theirpersonal leisure time, working for nothing.  She reminded people of the way cabins had to be moved out prior to the late 1960’s and the installation of electricity, both of which are examples of the onward vision of the Boards.  We have to move forward. The CLCA Board were offered a dual system, hoping to satisfy all.

 Trevor winters – Thank you very much.

 Andrew   Urbanowicz – 23 – 1st St. S. – Andrew proposed a fund be established for those who cannot afford the $5,000.00.  Andrew and his wife offered to start the fund with a donation of $ 1,000.00. Andrew thanked the Board for their work.

 Trevor Winters – Thanked Andrew for his generous offer and said the Board will follow up.

 Mr. Mutter –107 – 3rd St. S. – Questioned the Board’s authority to bind us to Leases and Sewer and Water.  He said the Constitution sets up how to proceed, what must happen when long-term situations occur, that a vote must happen.

 Trevor Winters – Explained that had we not been able to have a dual system, but only sewer and water, there would have been a vote and the dual system would have been off the table.  The dual system seemed the best option.

 Roy White – We are an association and any association can make decisions.  We make recommendations.  We made a recommendation to the Park to continue to pursue Leases and Sewer and Water.

 Mr.  Mutter –107 – 3rd St. S.  – The Board cannot make this decision.  It must go to a vote.

 Trevor Winters – The comment is received and noted.

 Malvin Valentini – 17 – 2nd St. S – Why is the season based on 7/12ths?  Preference would be 6/12ths.

 Dale Wallis – Parks Canada leases are either 7/12ths or 12/12ths, with water turned on weather permitting.

Brent Munroe – 75 – 2nd St. S. – Asked for the numbers re the voting to be kept.

 Trevor Winters – The numbers are recorded in the minutes.

 Maureen Munroe – 75 – 2nd St. S – Cancelling leases mentioned in project.

 Dale Wallis – Parks Canada have never cancelled a lease.

 Hugh Davis – 21 – 3rd St. S. – If the Board had not agreed would the Park have gone ahead?

 Trevor Winters – We have always had a good rapore with the Park.  The Park provided us with an incentive.

 Greg Fleck – 25 – 3rd St. S. – The introduction of dual system is a game changer, The Board should have provided all owners with information and then asked for a vote, The Board removed owner’s right to have a say.

 Trevor Winters – Are you opposed in principal to the dual system, or is it the money issue, the $5,000.00 up front?

 Greg  Fleck–25 – 3rd St. S. – Why were the Board afraid to ask?

 Trevor Winters – The Board’s responsibility is to accept and give recommendations to the Park.  If this issue had gone to a vote, it would have delayed a couple of years and the costs would have gone up.

 Robert Grain – 26 – 4th St. N. – The costs of maintaining the public washrooms is not free, someone is paying.  Parks Canada said 320 for cleaning and maintenance – different formula.

 Dale Wallis – There is a process in the Parks Act.  The work plan has a fund of money which is decided by all groups as to where to spend the funds.  The CLCA Board has a say.

 Joelle Robinson – 70 – 4th St. S. – Everyone cannot negate the importance of how Parks Canada has treated us.  We are on a camping permit. We do not have guarantees that our permits will continue.  The Board has invested a lot into leases to give us security. Thanks Board for Sewer and Water. Parks Canada has a huge commitment to the environment.  Just appreciate how much your investments have increased.  Everyone look at your investments.  The Board put a lot of dedication and time into this and should be commended.

 MaryAnne Hembroff – 50 – 4th St. S. – We do appreciate the effort, but the Board was elected to represent all and the Board did not represent all.  We are concerned that all were not included.  We would like a proper vote. Follow proper procedure.

 Brent Munroe – 75 – 2nd St. S. – I move that the Board be dismissed as they have not acted for us.

 Roy White – The Board is elected for a 2 year term. The motion is Out of Order, not allowed in the constitution.

 Bruce Hembroff –  53 –  5th St. S.  – Point of Order not acted on.

 Trevor Winters – Out of Order.  Need to have motions based on constitution.

 Following procedures on order in a meeting  as defined in Bourinot’s Rules of Order, the chairman called for order and named Past President Bruce Hembroff as the individual responsible for the ongoing disruption and disorder.  When the individual would not come to order, the chairman declared that he could no longer maintain order in the meeting; the meeting was adjourned until September, 2012.

THE ABOVE MINUTES HAVE BEEN POSTED HERE FOR OUR MEMBER’S INFORMATION ONLY.  THEY STILL MUST BE APPROVED AT THE SPRING MEETING IN JULY, 2013.

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CLEAR LAKE CABIN ASSOCIATION BOARD OF DIRECTOR’S MEETING MINUTES, JUNE 30,2012

CLCA Board of Directors Meeting

Saturday, June 30th, 2012

Clear Lake, Manitoba

www.clearlakecabinassociation.org

Present:  Trevor Winters, Gary Kavanagh, Gloria Belliveau, Joyce Harland, Brian McVicar. Jo-Ann Lambaert, Joan James, Scott Jordan, John George, Roy White, Nelda Didychuk,  Bruce Hembroff, Dale Wallis and Dwight McMillan.

 Absent with cause:  Kevin Alguire

 Call to Order:  President Trevor called the meeting to order at 9:08 a.m.

 Approval of Minutes: – Add to membership time – for a 2 year period.  Correct election term 1 year remaining – JoAnn Lambert, Nelda Didychuk, Kevin Alguire and Scott Jordan. On page 3, add be posted on all washrooms.  MOTION to approve minutes as amended  by John George, seconded by Gary Cavanagh.  Carried.

 Matters Arising from Minutes:

 Eye Patch Band:  The members of the Eye patch Band will be coming to the July Meeting.  Presentation of the Sweatshirts will be by John George and Gary Cavanagh.

 Website:  The website seemsto be working very well now with the new server.  Members should be encouraged to put their email addresses on the site to save costs of mailing newsletters, etc.

 Procedures for General Meeting:

 Sound system in place.

  • Hand outs ready and available.
  • Start with review of procedure – Constitution and Bourinot’s Rules
  • If “out of order” called 3 times – 5 minute recess – if still no order, meeting will be adjourned to September.
  • Scott Jordan to be responsible for registration tables.
  • Board Members asked to be there at 9-9:15. Registration volunteers are Joan James, JoAnn Lambert and Nelda Didychuk..
  • Vote Counting –  It was suggested perhaps closed ballots would be preferred.
  • Joyce Harland reported that she needs more voting cards,
  • Order of presentation
    • Stick to Agenda
    • Update on Leases and Sewer and Water
    • Dale Wallis will go first
    • Interviews and Contacts – by 23 cabin owners – 6 wanted information, 8 were in favour of our motion and 9  were opposed. All were responded to.
    • Letters had been written to elected officials.
    • Response from Mr. Sopuck was read.

 Presentation:  A presentation was made to the Board by Jacqueline Chapin Downey, which was well received by the Board and she was thanked for her concerns.

 Announcements:  A new letter written by an anonymous 17 year old had been posted on the washrooms.  It was decided to disregard this as it had no signature,

 New Business:

 Westoba Credit Union – have now issued our Treasurer a new card which is now a Debit Card and she would like the Board’s opinion  on this.  MOTION:  I move that we give authority to Joyce Harland, Gary Cavanagh and John George to sign the necessary paperwork at the Credit Union.  Moved by Brian McVicar, seconded by Nelda Didychuk. Carried.

 Wood Piles – Gary Cavanagh reported that he has had complaints that the wood is damp and will not burn.  There have been reports of people using accelerants in the wood stoves.

 Garbage Pick-up – Gary Cavanagh suggested the main garbage pick up should be early in the week as the garbage piles up after the weekend.

 Notice of Motion – Gary Cavanagh and Trevor Winters to prepare a Notice of Motion to be presented at the General Meeting to add to the Constitution a clearer explanation of the length of memberships to the association.

 PARKS CANADA

 Dale Wallis explained that the wood is contracted out and should be wood that is seasoned for 1 year, however, they  receive complaints that the wood is dirty so they default to unseasoned wood.

 There was discussion re the $5,000.00 and how to try to obtain it.

 Dale Wallis and Dwight McMillan will give the Agency perspective to the General Meeting.  There is legislation of Parks Canada which they will explain, and they will explain that  the costs will only go up with delays.

 NEW BUSINESS

 Grants

Joan James had done some research respecting the availability of grants for the infrastructure.   A committee was formed to work on this consisting of Joan James, Scott Jordan, Brian McVicar and Gloria Belliveau.

 Thank you:

 Roy White thanked Dale Wallis for his honesty and Trevor Winters for his hard work and diligence.

 Meeting adjourned at 11:20 a.m.

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MEMO OF UNDERSTANDING

                                                                             June 20, 2012

 

THE CLEAR LAKE CABIN ASSOCIATION

MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING

 

 

BETWEEN:

 

 

HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN IN RIGHT

OF CANADA, AS REPRESENTED BY THE

MINISTER OF THE ENVIRONMENT

(“PCA”)

 

 

– And –

 

 

THE CLEAR LAKE CABIN ASSOCIATION (CLCA) and

CLEAR LAKE CABIN ASSOCIATION BOARD, (“CLCAB”)

 

 

A. PURPOSE

The purpose of this MOU is to provide guidelines for the provision of recommendations

to Parks Canada on matters of local concern to the cabin owners in the CLCA.

B. OBJECTIVE

The objective of this MOU is to have duly elected representatives from The Clear Lake Cabin Owner’s Association participate and provide recommendations on various aspects of management; and to provide a forum for the residents to bring forth concerns related to Parks Canada issues. The meetings are also a forum for Parks Canada to provide continuing communication with the campground representatives on Parks Canada plans, initiatives and issues that affect or will affect the residents of the CLCA.

 

The Parties Agree as Follows:

 

Section 1.0 Interpretation

 

1.1       In this Memorandum of Understanding each of the following terms shall, unless

the context otherwise requires, have the meaning set out beside it:

 

(a)       “Canada National Parks Act” means the Canada National Parks Act,

S.C., 2000, c.32.

 

(b)       “Manager,” means Parks Canada’s departmental managers

for Riding Mountain National Park or the manager’s authorised representative;

 

(c)        “Campground” means the area within the boundaries of the legal land survey for the Clear Lake Cabin Area;

 

(d)       “Lessee” means the head lessee of public lands in the campground, or

their authorized representatives;

 

(e)       “Minister” includes the Minister’s authorised representative;

 

(f)        “MOU” means this Memorandum of Understanding;

 

(g)       “Superintendent” means the Superintendent of Riding Mountain

National Park or the Superintendent’s authorised representative;

 

(h)       “Townsite Manager” means Parks Canada’s Townsite Manager for the

Visitor Centre of Wasagaming or the Townsite Manager’s authorised

representative;

 

1.2       Any reference to statutes or regulations in this MOU includes any amendments,

revisions, substitutions and consolidations that may be made from time to time.

 

Section 2.0 Campground Representation

 

It is intended that the CLCAB will be the recognised voice of the Campground

Residents and Lessees. The represented association members shall also maintain their ability to consult directly with the Agency on matters of specific interest to them.

 

Section 3.0 Membership

 

3.1      The CLCAB membership and constitution shall be governed and determined by the CLCA at arms length from PCA.

 

 

Section 4.0 Procedures

 

4.1       It is intended that the CLCAB will have a minimum of two meetings per year with representatives of the Park. The Chairperson will be responsible for

calling all meetings of the CLCAB and developing an agenda for each meeting.

 

Section 5.0 Authority of the Board

 

5.1       The CLCAB will, subject to the authority of the Federal Crown:

 

(a)       make recommendations to Parks Canada respecting the level of municipal

services in the campground.

 

(b)       recommend for approval an annual operating and capital budget regarding

municipal services prepared by Parks Canada for municipal services

provided to the campground by Parks Canada;

 

(c)        appoint representatives to sit on various Parks Canada committees;

 

(d)       make recommendations to Parks Canada respecting development; and

 

(e)       provide input on other aspects of Parks Canada management affecting

Riding Mountain National Park.

 

5.2       Parks Canada will retain authority for development control and land use.

 

5.3       All recommendations made by the CLCAB must be consistent with applicable laws, plans, policies, and regulations, including but not limited to, the Riding Mountain Management Plan and the Wasagaming Community Plan.

 

Section 6.0 Committees of the Board

 

6.1       Members of the CLCAB shall form committees as required to include such topics as the Project Committee, Comprehensive Review Committee and Building Committee. Committees shall report on recommendations and matters of discussion at the regular CLCAB meetings.

 

6.2       The Project Committee will make recommendations on:

 

(a)       the capital budgets for the installation of water and sewer;

(b)       planning for water and sewer installation; and

(c)        decommissioning of washroom and shower buildings.

 

6.3       The Comprehensive Review Committee will make recommendations on all matters related to the comprehensive review including topics such as cook shacks, parking, public safety, traffic, green space, reforestation, boat storage, lakeshore development and other topics as they develop.

 

6.4       The Building Committee will make recommendations on amendments and implementation of the building and development guidelines for the cabins and cabin area as required.

 

 

 

 

 

Section 7.0 Parks Canada Consultation

 

7.1       Parks Canada agrees to provide to the CLCAB information on all matters pertaining to the campground.

 

7.2       Parks Canada agrees to discuss with and seek the recommendations of the

CLCAB regarding:

 

(a)       environmental protection and management;

(b)       budget and municipal services;

(c)        cultural resource protection and management;

(d)       decisions on major projects and capital infrastructure;

(e)       initiatives affecting the seasonal campground area, including comprehensive review, planning, public safety, recreation, and

(g)       development and building guidelines and variances from

approved plans and guidelines.

 

Section 8.0 Board Representation on Parks Canada Committees

 

Where the CLCA nominates an individual to participate on their Board and committees, it will be the responsibility of that individual to solicit input from the CLCA and to report back to regular meetings.

 

Section 9.0 Costs

 

9.1       The Minister has statutory obligations and responsibilities under the Canada

National Parks Act, Federal Contracting Regulations and Policies, Treasury

Board Policies and existing contracts and collective agreements which impact

upon municipal servicing. These obligations shall not be fettered by

this MOU.

 

9.2       Payment of any monies by Parks Canada shall be subject to the Financial

Administration Act, any other applicable legislation, and Treasury Board policies.

 

Section 10.0 Recommend Regulations

 

Parks Canada will consider for recommendation to the Governor in Council

requests from the CLCAB to create regulations for the better management of the

campground, provided that such proposed regulations are authorised by the

Canada National Parks Act, and consistent with this MOU, Applicable laws,

plans, policies and regulations, including but not limited to, the Riding Mountain National Park Management Plan and the Wasagaming Community Plan.

 

Section 11.0 Designated Parks Canada Representative

 

The Townsite Manager is the officially designated representative on all matters

relating to the community and will endeavour to attend all CLCAB meetings. The

Superintendent or a designate and departmental Managers or a designate will attend meetings of the CLCAB as required.

 

Section 12.0 Formal Review of the MOU

 

This MOU shall be reviewed and amended as necessary and mutually agreed.

 

Section 13.0 Dispute Resolution

 

Subject to applicable laws, where the CLCAB and the Townsite Manager are unable to arrive at a mutually agreeable solution to any outstanding issue, the CLCAB may appeal to the Superintendent. If the CLCAB and the Superintendent are unable to resolve the issue the CLCAB may appeal the Superintendent’s decision to the Vice-President, Operations, for Western and Northern Canada.

 

Section 14.0 Term

 

This MOU shall remain in force and effect from the date hereof until either party

shall give the other party three (3) months notice in writing of its intention to

terminate this memorandum.

 

Section 15.0 Legal Nature of This MOU

 

15.1    This MOU is not intended by either Parks Canada or the CLCAB to form legal or

equitable obligations or contractual relations. The parties acknowledge that there

is no consideration flowing between the parties.

 

15.2    Neither party has incurred expenses or obligations on reliance of this MOU

justifying a remedy in restitution, quantum meruit or otherwise.

 

Section 16.0 Federal Authority

 

16.1    The statutory discretion of the Federal Crown shall not be fettered by this MOU.

Parks Canada shall consider, but is not bound by, any recommendations made

by the CLCAB, or any committees thereof

 

16.2    Where the Superintendent chooses not to accept and act upon the advice of the

CLCAB, the Superintendent will present a written rationale to the Board

explaining the departure from the advice of the CLCAB, at the next meeting of the CLCAB. Disputes shall be resolved as outlined in Section 13 of this MOU.

 

 

 

 

 

 

17. Water and Sewer Project Agreement

 

The parties agree as follows:

 

1.0         Water and Sewer Project in Clear Lake Cabin Area

1.1         By mutual agreement with the Clear Lake Cabin Association, Parks Canada will install sewer and water services in the RMNP Cabin Area during the 2013/14 construction season.  The estimated cost of construction is $ 2,625,000, with the cost to be confirmed after tendering.

 

1.2         The full capital cost of the sewer and water project will be borne by the cabin owners on a per lot allocation basis. 

 

1.3         The cost of connecting to the water and sewer lines from the cabin to the main system will be at the expense of the cabin owner.

 

1.4         The sewer and water project will meet the requirements of the Canada Environmental Assessment Act.

 

1.5         The design and construction standards for the sewer and water project will meet all Parks Canada requirements.  CLCAB and Parks Canada will work together to design notices for request for proposals and review proposals which are submitted and the tender will be awarded by Parks Canada.  Construction is proposed for fall/spring, 2013/14. 

 

1.6         Parks Canada will undertake, as an in-kind contribution to this project, to provide construction supervision.  Parks Canada will inspect all work and provide for progress payment as outlined in the contract.

 

2.0         Amendments to the Cabin Development Guidelines

 

In order to facilitate the installation of bathrooms, Parks Canada agrees to make a number of changes to the cabin development guidelines, outlined below:

 

2.1         Cabins  will be allowed to develop to a maximum of 768 square feet, including the option of an external washroom facility of 48 square feet

2.2         Storage sheds will be allowed to develop to a maximum of 48 sq. ft. to be situated within leased lot lines and setbacks.

2.3         Total site coverage (cabin + shed + deck) shall not exceed the maximum outlined in the cabin development guidelines. 

2.4         Cabin owners replacing their existing cabin, or making significant structural changes to an existing cabin must include washroom facilities within the cabin.

2.5         All washroom developments shall employ water conservation technologies including low flush toilets and low flow shower heads.

2.6         Cabin owners will be able to develop to a maximum height of 20 feet from the top of the main floor joist to the peak of the roof.

2.7         The maximum of 40% space useable for loft area will be removed from the cabin development guideline.

2.8         For cabins with existing legal non-conforming decks and for which owners plan to undertake modifications to cabin and/or shed for the purposes of installing bathroom facilities, Parks Canada will require all legal non-conformities to be rectified.

 

3.0         Connecting to Sewer and Water Services

 

3.1         Pursuant with section 3(1) of the Parks Canada Sewer and Water Regulations, which states, “the owner of every building on a lot that fronts or abuts on any part of a street on which a water main or sewer main has been laid shall connect the building directly to that water main or sewer main, as the case may be”, All cabins will be considered to have met this requirement when the main sewer and water infrastructure project, including cabin connection boxes is completed.

3.2         Pursuant to section 4 of the Parks Canada Sewer and Water Regulations any connection by a cabin property with a water and sewer main requires the permission in writing of the Superintendent.

3.3         Existing cabin owners shall not be required to connect to their connection box if their cabin does not have interior plumbing fixtures. A condition for future assignments of cabin leases or the issuance of development permits shall be the final connection of interior plumbing to the water and sewer system.

 

4.0         Phasing out of Washrooms:

            It is agreed that all public washrooms and the shower building will be retained until October, 2019 or five years after the infrastructure project is completed, whichever is greater.  After this date Parks Canada and the CLCA Board will annually review the public washroom and shower requirements. Based on the number of cabins connected to shared services, and the location of these cabins, washrooms may be closed pursuant to mutual agreement. The public shower building may be retained until such time as the parties mutually agree or the building has reached the end of its usable life. 

 

 

5.0         Implementation of the Agreement:

5.1         Parks Canada and the CLCAB agree to work cooperatively to communicate this agreement to the cabin owners and stakeholders.

5.2         Time is of the essence.  In order to meet the intent of this agreement, Parks Canada and the CLCAB agree to work vigorously to meet the schedule outlined in the agreement.

5.3         This agreement is not a contract but an MOU between CLCAB and Parks Canada.

 

Section 18.0 Correspondence

 

18.1    All communications required or permitted to be given or served pursuant to this

MOU shall be in writing and shall be delivered personally or may be mailed by

registered mail, postage prepaid, addresses as follows:

 

Parks Canada

C\O Townsite Manager

Wasagaming

Manitoba, R0J 2H0

 

CLCAB

Wasagaming, Mb

R0J 2H0

Or alternate address

                                                                                                                       

 

18.2    Every notice mailed in any post office in Canada by prepaid registered mail in an

envelope addressed to the party to whom the same is directed shall be deemed

to have been given and received by the addressee the fifth business day

following mailing except where there is a labour strike or other postal interruption

which interferes with mail deliveries, in which case every notice provided for in

the agreement or arising in connection thereforth shall be in writing and shall be

delivered to the party or parties at the above addresses and such notices shall be

effective only if and when actually delivered.

 

 

                                                                                     

 

 

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WATER & SEWER PROJECT AGREEMENT, JUNE 2012

June 20, 2012

 

THE CLEAR LAKE CABIN ASSOCIATION

SEWER AND WATER PROJECT AGREEMENT

 

BETWEEN:                           RIDING MOUNTAIN NATIONAL PARK

AND PARKS CANADA AGENCY

(“PCA”)

– And –

THE CLEAR LAKE CABIN ASSOCIATION (CLCA) and

CLEAR LAKE CABIN ASSOCIATION BOARD, (“CLCAB”)

 

The purpose of this agreement is to provide guidelines for the implementation of the water and sewer project in the Clear Lake Campground. The parties agree as follows:

 

1.0         Water and Sewer Project in Clear Lake Cabin Area

1.1         By mutual agreement with the Clear Lake Cabin Association, Parks Canada approves the installation of sewer and water services in the RMNP Cabin Area during the 2013/14 construction season.  The estimated cost of construction is $ 2,625,000, with the cost to be confirmed after tendering.

1.2         The full capital cost of the sewer and water project will be borne solely by the cabin owners on a per lot allocation basis.

1.3         The cost of connecting to the water and sewer lines from the cabin to the main system will be at the sole expense of the cabin owner.

1.4         The sewer and water project will meet the requirements of the Canada Environmental Assessment Act.

1.5         The design and construction standards for the sewer and water project will meet all Parks Canada requirements.  CLCAB and Parks Canada will work together to design notices for request for proposals and review proposals which are submitted and the tender will be awarded by Parks Canada.  Construction is proposed for fall/spring, 2013/14.

1.6         Parks Canada will undertake, as an in-kind contribution to this project, to provide construction supervision.  Parks Canada will inspect all work and provide for progress payment as outlined in the contract.

 

2.0         Amendments to the Cabin Development Guidelines

 

In order to facilitate the installation of bathrooms, Parks Canada agrees to make a number of changes to the cabin development guidelines, outlined below:

 

2.1         Cabins  will be allowed to develop to a maximum of 768 square feet, including the option of an external washroom facility of 48 square feet

2.2         Storage sheds will be allowed to develop to a maximum of 48 sq. ft. to be situated within leased lot lines and setbacks.

2.3         Total site coverage (cabin + shed + deck) shall not exceed the maximum outlined in the cabin development guidelines.

2.4         Cabin owners replacing their existing cabin, or making significant structural changes must include washroom facilities within the cabin.

2.5         All washroom developments shall employ water conservation technologies including low flush toilets and low flow shower heads.

2.6         Cabin owners will be able to develop to a maximum height of 20 feet from the top of the main floor joist to the peak of the roof.

2.7         The maximum of 40% space useable for loft area will be removed from the cabin development guideline.

2.8         For cabins with existing legal non-conforming decks and for which owners plan to undertake modifications to cabin and/or shed for the purposes of installing bathroom facilities, Parks Canada will require all legal non-conformities to be rectified.

 

3.0         Connecting to Sewer and Water Services

 

3.1         Pursuant with section 3(1) of the Parks Canada Sewer and Water Regulations, which states, “the owner of every building on a lot that fronts or abuts on any part of a street on which a water main or sewer main has been laid shall connect the building directly to that water main or sewer main, as the case may be”, All cabins will be considered to have met this requirement when the main sewer and water infrastructure project, including cabin connection boxes is completed.

3.2         Pursuant to section 4 of the Parks Canada Sewer and Water Regulations any connection by a cabin property with a water and sewer main requires the permission in writing of the Superintendent.

3.3         Existing cabin owners shall not be required to connect to their box if their cabin does not have interior plumbing fixtures. A condition for future assignments of cabin leases or the issuance of development permits shall be the final connection of interior plumbing to the water and sewer system.

 

4.0         Phasing out of Washrooms:

It is agreed that all public washrooms and the shower building will be retained until October, 2019 or five years after the infrastructure project is completed, whichever is greater.  After this date Parks Canada and the CLCA Board will annually review the public washroom and shower requirements. Based on the number of cabins connected to shared services, and the location of these cabins, washrooms may be closed pursuant to mutual agreement. The public shower building may be retained until such time as the parties mutually agree or the building has reached the end of its usable life.

 

5.0         Implementation of the Agreement:

5.1              Parks Canada and the CLCAB agree to work cooperatively to communicate this agreement to the cabin owners and stakeholders. In order to meet the intent of this agreement, Parks Canada and the CLCAB agree to work vigorously to meet the schedule outlined.

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OPEN LETTER TO CABIN OWNERS

OPEN LETTER TO CABIN OWNERS

FROM: Trevor Winters, President CLCA

June 20, 2012

 

Dear Cabin Owner,

It is with some regret that I write this letter to you.  I had hoped that the debate regarding leases and the dual system for water and sewer could have been limited to facts, and discussed on a factual and non-emotional basis.  However, corrections now have to be made.

Unfortunately, a significant amount of false and mis-leading material has been posted in our area and hand delivered to many cabins (I understand not all cabins, but a selected group) in the past day or two by our past president Bruce Hembroff or his supporters.  It is necessary to provide corrections.

Mr. Hembroff suggests that cabin owners are not getting a good deal in this process. There are very few points on which the board can negotiate as the Parks Canada Act has regulations that outline fees (User Fee Act) and lease rates (PCA Leases and License of Occupation Regulations) and these policies are not negotiable. Nor does the board have any control over the construction cost of the water and sewer infrastructure. However your board has worked successfully with the PCA wherever possible to ensure the best value for all of us.

PCA has agreed to waive the Release Fee for your lot, a $75,000 savings to each cabin owner and almost $40,000,000 to the combined membership. ($75,000 x 525 = $39,375,000). We have also reached agreement with the agency to allow a dual system that will continue as long as  required and mutually agreed to. We have also reached agreement that if a cabin owner wishes to never install facilities in their cabin they will not be regulated to. All these points are a considerable improvement over the offer negotiated in 2006 and in our opinion, represent the best possible win win we can achieve. Unfortunately every year we wait to execute leases or complete water and sewer simply adds additional cost to the elements we cannot negotiate. Land assessments in 2007 would have equated to valuations  of $40 – 50,000 per lot which translates to annual lease rates of $600 – 750.00/yr. Had leases been signed in 2007 your individual savings over the life of your lease would have been $20,000 -$25,000 and for the entire cabin area, a total of up to $11,500,000. Had the water and sewer infrastructure been completed in 2007 the project savings could have been as much as $1,000,000. Taking these factors into consideration, Mr Hembroff  is correct, the best deal was in 2007 and waiting another 5 – 10 years will only magnify the costs to each of us.

Mr Hembroff  includes a list of statements at the end of his letter that are presented as bullet facts. He sent the letter to the board and PC on June 13th with the request that we mail his letter to the membership. He was provided with a list of corrections and chose not to amend his incorrect statements. For this reason the board did not add it to the website (as a letter it should be in the Forum component anyway) and we now feel compelled to provide the facts here in the continuation of our commitment to clear honest communication.

1. Mr Hembroff’s statement – Many cottages in RMNP are evaluated at less than $75,000. Corrected fact – Current cottage assessments within Wasagaming range between $150,000 – 300,000.

2. Mr. Hembroff’s statement -Annual municipal services will double. Corrected fact – Invoiced amount for 2012 will be $300 and estimates for 2013 will be approximately $425. A 40% increase with $75 (25%) attributable to the extended occupancy period provided by the lease and the $50 balance to direct connection.

3. Mr. Hembroff’s statement – Project cost of $3.5m. Corrected fact – PCA has provided an estimated per cabin assessment of $5,000 allowing for contingencies, a total of $2,625,000

4. Mr. Hembroff’s statement – Kitchenette and wood maintenance costs are not included in your lease. Corrected fact – The fact is that no maintenance or services are included in either the camping permit or the lease. The workplan for the campground, which is reviewed and discussed annually with the WTA, determines the services, and maintenance for the campground and includes delivery of wood.

5. Mr Hembroff’s statement – I have not seen anything in writing guaranteeing that the release fee is waived. Corrected fact – The agency has been very clear that the release fee is waived for the conversion to leases April 2013.

6. Mr Hembroff’s statement – There is no dual system. The correct term is interim.  Corrected fact – The agreement negotiated with PCA is a dual system with washrooms and shower to remain as needed and for any future closure to be mutually agreed between the parties (CLCA Board and Parks Canada). In addition no cabin owner is being mandated to install plumbing within their cabin.  Having a junction connection box at the cabin will put the property in compliance with regulations but the cabin itself does not have to be plumbed in.

I am reluctant to pester people with these types of letters and I have only done so to provide correct facts.  Please come to the meeting on July 1 to ask your questions and receive up-dates.  Thank you

 

Trevor Winters

President Clear Lake Cabin Association

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UPDATE ON INFORMATION FOR THE CABIN AREA (LEASES, WATER-SEWER, BUILDING GUIDELINES)

Clear Lake Seasonal Cabin Area 

Information on Conversion Projects

Leases

On April 1, 2013 Parks Canada Agency will issue 42-year leases to the owners of the 525 cabins in the seasonal cabin area on the request of your board. The decision to move to leases from annual camping permits is to provide tenure and leasehold interest to cabin owners while controlling future cost increases. Recent annual seasonal camping permits issued in National Parks have been $1,698 – $2,000 per year. Proactively requesting leases for the campground has ensured the CLCA the best opportunity to negotiate a financially positive conversion.

 

Q:       I hear camping permit fees were going up. Is this true?

A:        Yes, had we stayed with seasonal camping permits, our fees would have been brought in line with fees as charged across Canada in other National Parks. At this time, these fees range from $1,698 to $2,000.   If we chose to stay with Seasonal Camping Permits, our fees would have increased accordingly.

 

Q:       How long is the lease?

A:        As set out in the National Pa

 

rks of Canada Lease and Licence of Occupation Regulations, the length of the lease is 42 years.

 

Q:       Why do we have to sign a lease?

A:        The Clear Lake Cabin Owners’ Association has requested the conversion from permits to leases as a benefit to cabin owners.  This will provide a leasehold interest to cabin owners and ensure a fair return to the Crown for the use of the lands.  This is viewed as a more appropriate arrangement for the cabins in Wasagaming reflecting the permanent nature to which the campground and buildings have evolved.

 

Q:       What benefits does a lease give me?

A:        A lease conveys an interest in the land.  Leaseholders will be assured long-term security and protection of equity.  A lease can be held by a corporation or multiple owners whereas a camping permit can only be held by an individual.  Banking institutions recognize leasehold properties; therefore cabin owners could secure mortgages.

 

Q:       What are the rent options?  How much will I pay?

A:        Rent options for national parks are set out in the National Parks of Canada Lease and Licence of Occupation Regulations.  The estimated appraised land value is currently $75,000.00 per lot. An appraisal this fall will set the final appraisal value for your Lease. In addition to land rent, cabin owners will continue to pay their annual municipal utilities (water, sewer,  garbage and community debt).

 

Basic details of the three rent options are as set out below. 

Option 1:        An annual rent, $1750.00, based on (7/12ths) of 4% of the appraised land value ($75,000.00) of the leasehold property, to be reviewed every ten (10) years thereafter until the term of the lease expires.

 

Option 2:        An annual rent, $1312.00, based on (7/12ths) of 3% of the appraised land value ($75,000.00) of the leasehold property, to  be reviewed every two (2) years thereafter until the term of the lease expires.

 

Option 3:        An annual rent, $1125, based on 1.5% of the appraised land value ($75,000.00) of the leasehold property, which value  is set for the term of the lease.  The rental rate shall then be compounded annually by the average of the previous five years Consumer Price Index to a maximum percentage increase of 5% in any given year.

 

Q:       What if I don’t agree with the appraised land value?

A:        In order to acquire the right to request arbitration of the appraised land value, the cabin owner must first execute the land lease, then as a lessee enter into an arbitration agreement with Parks Canada Agency to dispute the appraised land value.
Q:       What happens to the lease when ownership changes?

A:        The lease attaches to the property; if the cabin is sold or changes owners, then the lease must be assigned to the new owner.  Whatever rent option is chosen upon execution of the lease will follow through the remainder of the term of the lease.

 

Q:       What happens if I don’t sign the lease?

A:        The lease provides the cabin owner the right to occupy the land. If no lease is in place, then the land will be illegally occupied. National Parks regulations would be contravened and a “Notice to Vacate” will be served to the owner.

 

Water and Sewer Connections

 

After 20 years of discussion and review the CLCA board has requested the park allow the cabin owners to proceed with the

installation of service connections to individual cabins while allowing the shared services to remain as long as required. The board recognizes that these connections are required by National Park regulations, that demand for this service is growing and that every year we wait simply adds additional cost to the project.

 

Q:       What will happen to the shower and washroom buildings?

A:        The common washroom and shower buildings in the cabin area will remain at this time.  The Memorandum of Understanding between Parks Canada Agency and the CLCA   sets out the terms for the water and sewer installation project. This MOU details all aspects of the water and sewer project including the future of the shared facilities. The park has agreed that as long as there is reasonable demand for public services they will be available.

 

Q:       Will I be required to connect to water and sewer services?

A:        The cabin owners are r
equired by section 3 (1) of the National Parks Water and Sewer Regulations SOR 2001/2007 to connect to the water and sewer infrastructure. The Parks Canada Agency has been respectful in postponing the application of this regulation to the seasonal campground in Wasagaming but this cannot continue forever.  The time frame agreed upon with the CLCA and outlined within the MOU for the water and sewer project to move forward is the fall of 2013. Ultimately, if you do not already have them, the choice whether to put plumbing fixtures within your cabin remains yours.   Water and sewer lines will be ran to an in-ground connection box in front of your cabin. This will be the “Shutoff Point”. From there, you can choose to have a bathroom, kitchen, etc installed within your cabin or within a “Washroom Building”. Remember, the community washrooms and shower building will remain until it is mutually agreed upon by both the CLCA and Parks Canada that they can be closed. This means connecting to the community water and sewer facilities will remain your choice.

 

Q:       What are the costs of the project and how will they be assessed?

A.        The estimated cost for the completion of the water and sewer system, including installation of a connection box at the front of each cabin, is $5000 per cabin. Adjustments for final costs will be made accordingly.  To proceed with the project each cabin owner will be required to pay their assessed portion of the cost, by June 1, 2013. Fa

ilure to pay your assessed portion may result in cancellation of your lease and a notice to vacate. For cabin owners wishing to finance their assessment they can make arrangements with their bank or the local credit unions are prepared to provide term financing to qualified owners. As a leased property mortgage financing becomes an available option.

 

Q.        What will the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) provide?

A.        An MOU has been negotiated with parks to outline the relationship between the CLCA and the Parks Canada Agency which details the commitments of parties, including project deliverables, project funding, washroom and shower building decommissioning and cabin connection requirements.

 

Q.        What if I don’t agree with the board’s decision?

A.        The board has considered these issues and made what we believe is the best decision for the association. As the board we are duly elected representatives with a mandate to represent your interests. If you disagree with our actions you have the option to elect new representatives in the future however the park will still require their regulations to be met a

nd changes to your fees in keeping with their acts and regulations.

 

Q.        Why didn’t we vote on water and sewer this time?

A.        Continually voting and debating year after year is causing a divide in our community. We are simply trying to put this issue to rest and move forward. Following the 2006 vote the board agreed to not proceed with water and sewer and advised the park that “until such time as there was a reasonable expectation that a majority of the membership supported the proposal,” (then President Bruce Hembroff, Jan 2007) that the project shouldn’t move forward. The survey results from last winter clearly show majority support in favor of proceeding with at least a dual system at this time. This decision satisfies the cabin owners wishing to connect, maintains the status quo for those who don’t, and provides movement forward to comply with park regulation. There is a financial cost involved but postponing the decision will only increase future costs.We are simply trying to put this issue to rest and move forward.

 

Q.        How much will this cost me each year?

A.        In the first year the land assessment payment of $5,000 is due. After 2013 annual payments will be your lease and municipal services. Specific land assessment values won’t be fully qualified until this winter and each cabin owner will need to choose their lease option and optional cabin renovation plan. A current budget example, using the CLCA board recommended Lease Option 3 and a ‘washroom building’ your costs will be approximately:

Option 3 lease cost:                                        $1,125

Annual Municipal Services:                            $400

Municipal Assessment                                   $5,000
Subtotal:                                                          $6,525

OPTIONAL: Whatever you deem appropriate for plumbing your cabin.  If you chose the CLCA sample Washroom Building, you will pay approximately $5,000 which would include everything you would need for a washroom. Plumbing underneath your cabin to connect your washroom to the municipal service, approximately $500.

 

Payable for 201
4: $1,541 (assuming a 1.5% increase in the CPI)

Payable for 2015: $1,559 (assuming a 1.5% increase in the CPI)…and so on.

 

CLCA Building Guidelines – Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ):

 

To prepare for the conversion projects the CLCAB formed a building committee that worked with Parks Canada to revise the building guidelines to accommodate washroom development. These new guidelines will be posted on our website. The following Q&A’s respond to anticipated questions and highlight some changes

 

Q: What recourse do I have if I disagree with the rules and regulations?

A: Regulations for building a new cabin or any structure within RMNP are solely at the discretion of the Parks Canada Agency. Contact the park office for more information.

 

Q: Is an architect’s stamp required for all projects?

A: Park regulations require architect stamp for all projects over $25,000. A renovation under $25,000 does not require a stamp bu

t must meet all regulatory requirements.

 

Q: Can CLCA provide a set of cabin blueprints that we can download and use?

A: We have developed a series of plans that will be available for download from our website based on our revised building guidelines. These plans are to help you and your architect develop plans specific to your lot and design. Once you have a final design a certified architect stamp is required before submitting for a development permit.

Q: How do you arrive at 768 sq ft for the overall square footage for the cabin?

A: The maximum allowable square footage is 768 and includes all enclosed living space. As an example if your main floor is 16’x32’, this equals 512 sq ft for the main floor. If you want a loft this leaves you with 256 sq ft for the loft space. If you have a 16’x24’ cabin your main floor area is 384 sq ft. and you can add a full second story (2 x 384 = 768). How you achieve 768 sq ft is up to you so long as you stay within the established building guidelines, maximum footprint of 16’ x 32’ and regulated setbacks.

 

Q: Why do you limit the overall square footage to 768 sq ft?

A: We limit the overall s

quare footage in an effort to keep congestion to a minimum. We are promoting smaller cabin footprints and more diversity in cabin structures while conforming to standard building practice.

 

Q: I’ve seen pictures of Waskesiu and they cantilever their second story. Can we do that?

A: In most cases you wouldn’t meet the rules of fire separation as documented in the National Building Code (NBC) which is how side yard setbacks were determined. Additionally, the CLCA feel we would be encroaching on our neighbor’s property and privacy. However if your footprint is smaller than 16 x 32 cantilevered floors could be included in your design.

 

Q: Why are you restric

ting the overall height to 20 feet?

A: To keep the look and feel as natural as possible but still allow people to build cabins that are comfortable a 20 foot height restriction allows you to have a two story structure and build it according to normal building practices.

 

Q: Why can’t I pour footings, use screw piles or drill concrete piles for my cabin?

A: The proximity to other cabins and the chance that drilling piles or pouring footings will undermine the integrity of the foundation of adjacent cabins. The second reason is to preserve the trees for as long as possible we don’t want to disturb the soil and damage root structures.

 

Q: I see a lot of old trailers. If I own a trailer, will all these changes force me out?

A: No. We will not force anyone to move because there is a trailer on their lot. Section 6 states “Trailers, which have been deemed a legal non-conforming structure, will be permitted to exist but not to be replaced when they are removed.”

 
Q: You used to specify the height of the finished main floor to the ground and you don’t anymore.

A: We are trying to ensure cabins didn’t get too high; however, this forced area residents to build too close to the ground effectively preventing any future work from being performed under the cabin.

 

Q: Is it true that because the “cabins” in the Old Campground will have water and sewer that they will be then be classified as “cottages”?

A: No, they will remain classified as “cabins”.

 

 

 

Q:Who do I contact if I have questions or require more information?

A:       CLCA Board plea

se contact:                          Parks Canada please contact:

Trevor Winters, Board Chair                          Dwight McMillan, Townsite Realty Officer

e-mail: mistey@mymts.net                            e-mail:  dwight.mcmillan@pc.gc.ca

phone: 204-253-5449                         `           phone: 204-848-7214

              

Clear Lake Bathroom Building  

                  

The Park has approved the use of a separate bathroom building. This option would only be available to owners whose cabins are 24’ or smaller.  We have obtained a quote on the cost to build such a building from Twilite Hi Pro Mfg Ltd.  They will build an 8’x6’ insulated building with one window, locking door, and vinyl siding (your choice of color).  These bathroom buildings would be fully equipped with a shower, sink, toilet, in wall heater and small hot water tank.  They will deliver them to your lot for a cost of $4997.00 plus tax.  You would still need to obtain a permit from the Park.  For more information on these buildings contact George Wollman at 204 476 3126 or 877 476 7557.   Twilite may require a minimum number of orders before beginning construction.

 

Summary:

 

The preceding information has been sent to clarify details and provide timely up-dates to cabin owners.  In summary:

 

  1. Based on the rent review process initiated by Parks Canada, our cabin area is unfortunately destined for a rent increase.  You have the information on the options the board reviewed , and it is the opinion of the Board that the best possible option available to us is 42 year leases which provide tenure, stability and an ability to access long term loans if necessary.

In 2005 – 2006 the Board of the CLCA established a committee of cabin owners to make a recommendation on the best option for our area for water and sewer services.  The recommendation of that committee to the Board at that time was that the best solution for our area was to establish a dual system for water and sewer to accommodate both points of view in the cabin area.  In 2012, with the full cooperation from Parks Canada, the board recommended that we proceed with a dual system.  It is important to note that a dual system means that a cabin owner does NOT have to hook up to water and sewer,  the public facilities will remain open.  The entire cabin area will then share costs to put in the infrastructure and to maintain and clean the public washroom system

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CLCA Board Meeting – January 14, 2012

CLCA Board of Directors Meeting

Saturday, January 14th, 2012

Portage la Prairie, Manitoba

www.clearlakecabinassociation.org

 

Present:  Trevor Winters, Gary Cavanagh, Gloria Belliveau. Joyce Harland, Brian McVicar, Joanne Lambert, Joan James, Scott Jordan, John George, Roy White, Nelda Didychuck, Kevin Alguire.

Absent with cause:  Bruce Hembroff.

Call to Order:   9:22 a.m.     Trevor welcomed Nelda and Joanne to the Board.

Review of Agenda:  John requested an amendment to review the travel allowance.  Recommended this belongs in new business.  Motion:  The agenda be accepted.  Moved by Roy White, seconded by John George. Carried.

Approval of July 2nd, 2011 Minutes:  Moved by Brian McVicar, seconded by Joan James. Carried.

Approval of September 3rd, 2011 Minutes:  Motion:  Before New Business, add new heading Campground Survey:  After discussion, the CLCA expresses its support of the Park survey.  Moved by Brian McVicar and seconded by Roy White. Carried.  Motion: That we accept the September 3rd, 2011 minutes as amended.  Moved by John George, seconded by Nelda Didychuck.  Carried.

Business Arising Out of Minutes:

The dot.com website has been purchased by Ken Jarvin for $40.00 and he will sell it to us.  It is already linked to the .org website.  Motion:  That we pay Ken Jarvin $40.00 for the .com website.  Moved by Joyce Harland, seconded by  Brian McVicar.  Carried.

Joan reported on the information she had received from Twilite Hi Pro Mfg. Ltd. For construction of separate washroom buildings for individual cabins.  This Company says they can build this structure to meet Park specifications for $5,596.64.  This would include a wall heater, light, plug in, all fixtures (shower, sink and toilet) and delivery.

As it has been previously decided to acknowledge the 40th anniversary of the Eyepatch Band, Joan is to investigate purchasing sweatshirts with Logos and have them available to be presented at the July general meeting.

There was discussion about deferring posting the line about camping fees in the September 4th, 2011 Minutes until further clarification by Park staff Dale Wallis.  Motion:  We remove the estimate of lease line in the September 4th, 2011 minutes before posting on line.  Moved by Roy White, seconded by Gary Cavanagh.  Carried.

Treasurer’s Report:  As of December  31st, 2011.

Revenue as of December 31st, 2011                                                                                                 $7,195.55

Income from Memberships                                                                                                              $     80.00

Total   Revenue to December 31st,2011                                                                                          $7,275.55

Expenses to December 31, 2011

Printing for AGM, Sept. 4, 2011                                                       $   63.70

Onanole Drop in Centre, Board meeting Sept. 3, 2011                   40.00

Buns for Board Meeting Sept. 3, 2011                                                  20.00

President’s travel for Board business – June 30 to

Sept. 7, 2011 (119 km @.30 per km.)                                                    35.70

Stamps                                                                                                           12.39

Theatre rental for AGM, Sept. 4, 2011                                               100.00

WTA Fees for 2011                                                                              1,000.00

Tru Draw Drafting – Outside washroom floor plan                      105.00

Total Expenses to December 31st,2011                                                                                           $1,376.79

Total Assets to December 31st.2011                                                                                                $5,898.76

Westoba Bank Balance as of Dec. 31, 2011                              $    885.76

Add Term Deposit                                                                              5,000.00

Add Westoba Share                                                                                    5.00

Add Westoba Equity                                                                                   8.00

Bank Reconciliation                                                                                                                            $5,898.76

Total Memberships paid 2010 to 2011 – 435 (83% of 525 cabin owners)

Respectfully submitted by Joyce Harland, Treasurer of CLCA.

Motion:  I move to accept the Treasurer’s report as circulated.  Moved by Scott Jordan, seconded by Nelda Didychuck. Carried.  Motion:  The expenses for the WTA meeting (meals) be covered by the CLCA.  Moved by Gary Cavanagh, seconded by John George.  Carried.

Committee Reports:

Townsite Security:  Gloria reported that there have been no meetings of the committee.  Joyce and Gloria held a meeting for owners, at which only four came and were not interested in patrolling at night, but made a short list of  things all cabin owners should watch  for.  These were posted on the washrooms.  Gloria will continue on the committee and Joanne will replace Joyce on the committee.

Vegetation Committee:  Scott reported that a few trees were replaced.  The trees that were planted are doing very well.  Trevor expressed a concern about Burr Oak trees.  Scott replied that they are aware of the issues with Burr Oaks.  Scott will remain on the committee.

Marine Committee:  John reported that the Park delayed programs that were scheduled for last summer.  John will remain on the committee.

Web Site:  Joyce reported that the site was giving a warning of a virus, and she did not open the site but shut down her computer to avoid the virus.  Scott checked the site and found the same virus.  Cam Heming had been alerted to the problem.  Joyce is to keep in touch with Cam to get the problem resolved.

Development Review Board:  Gloria reported that there had not been a meeting of the Development Review Board.  Gloria and Roy are to remain as representatives on the Development Review Board.

WTA:  Brian will represent the Board re the Doctor’s  House and Gary will represent the Board with respect to finance.

Motion: To accept the committee reports as presented.  Moved by John George, seconded by Joyce Harland.  Carried.

WTA Meeting:  Reported by Gary Cavanagh.

–        A discussion on rent reviews has occurred.  Cottages and businesses hired private evaluators and their evaluations came out lower than the Parks, however  the Park would not accept their evaluation.  There are private law suits ongoing.

–        There are commercial lots for sale.

–        The cottage area roads will be plowed this year.

–        The WTA would like the following infrastructure items to be priorized:  Outdoor arena, deep water lines for cottages, cabin area washrooms, boat launches,

–        Issues Park is facing are:  recycling, Superintendent’s  residence (available for rentals for weddings, etc.) through the golf course, consulting with Rural Municipal Advisory Board regarding the east end of the park.

–        Parks Canada

–        -want more meetings with townsite.

–        -are looking at projects re all Western Parks.

–        -update on community plan

–        -discussion re private cottage owners

–        -commercial leases

–        -Cheryl Penny said Robert Sheldon is the new Superintendent

–        -need to formalize the opening and closing date of the Dr.’s residence re Hydro and Insurance

–        -the Superintendent’s residence is to be upgraded

–        -want ideas to preserve all heritage areas of the Park

–        -want a Memorandum of Understanding with the Rural Municipal Advisory Group

–        -boat launch – mooring and access fees likely activated next year to be used for repairs, etc.

–        -kiosks at boat cove for tickets to launch

–        -kiosks at main gate for quick vehicle entry

–        -busking areas for entertainers by Friends of the Park

–        -the prescribed burn was much larger than planned

–        -recycling problems

Acceptance of the WTA report.  Moved by Scott Jordan, seconded by Brian McVicar.  Carried.

Park Representatives Dale Wallis and Dwight McMillan joined the meeting.

Dale reported that 307 out of 525 cabin  owners replied to the survey sent out by the Park.  They want input from the Board on where to go and which items to proceed to investigate on our behalf, noting that Sewer and Water as well as Leases are not mentioned in the Comprehensive Review.   John suggested we move forward on all positive results, for example lot size increases.  Dwight suggested we not lump things together, but keep them simple.  Roy said he feels the leases are a separate issue.  Nelda asked if there is a legal survey and Dwight said no, just a Park survey.  Motion:  We encourage the Park to move forward to a lease system for the campground property.  Moved by Roy White, seconded by Scott Jordan.  Carried.

Dale said that our permit fees have not been adjusted for 20 years and we can expect there will be a substantial increase.

Motion:  We recommend that the Park proceed with sewer and water in individual cabins. Moved by Joanne Lambert, seconded by Kevin Alguire.  Dale said it was possible to have both, to keep the existing washrooms and shower building and to have sewer and water for those who want it.  Joanne and Kevin agreed to withdraw their motion. Amended Motion: Based on the results of the survey and in light of the fact that Parks Canada has indicated that we will keep the washrooms and shower buildings for as long as required, we the Board recommend that the Park proceed with the installation of water and sewer to the individual cabins.  Moved by Joanne Lambert, seconded by Kevin Alguire. Carried.

Dale and Dwight offered to have a few building designs for cabins which could be purchased from the Park.  Kevin asked if the plans would include the necessary stamps and Dalr responded that they would.  Roy thanked Nelda for breaking the ground for lofts and unique designs.  Motion:  We form a committee to review building guidelines and design.  Moved by Roy White and seconded by Gary Cavanagh. Carried.  Committee to consist of John George, Scott Jordan, Joan James, Joanne Lambert and Nelda Didychuck.

Dale reported that the cost of garbage will go up.  The back lanes are inconvenient for the trucks due to their twisty nature and the trees that have overgrown the lanes.

There was a general discussion on the possibilities regarding lot sizes.

The Community Plan has been reworked and sent back to Ottawa.

New Business:

A dead rat was found on 2nd Street North.

The new Superintendent is Robert Sheldon.

There is no booking of the Jamboree Hall, it is on a first come basis.

The procedural By-Law is at the printer.

We need to have a meeting with our MP, Bob Sopack, to solicit his ideas and support.

Motion: Anyone picking up 3 or more Board members receive double the car allowance.  Moved by John George and seconded by Roy White.  After discussion, John and Roy agreed to withdraw their motion.    Amended motion:  We raise the travel allowance for $.30 to $.40 per kilometer plus $.10 per kilometer for each passenger.  Moved by John George and seconded by Roy White.  Carried.

The newsletter was deferred to the next meeting.

Next meeting:  To be announced.

Meeting adjourned at 3:10 p.m.

 

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Website Back Online

The website is finally back online. After much hassle and problems with malware with our original server 1and1.com we have moved the site to godaddy.com. We hope this will alleviate the problems of the site being hacked into and infected with malware.

For those who registered on the site – we removed the old registrations for security reasons. please register again on the bottom right of any page.

If there are any problems you see – please email info@clearlakecabinassociation.org

Thanks,

Cam Heming
Website Designer.

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